Zenyatta Has Earned Horse of the Year

10 pnt move up · #1 11-15-2010, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Isn't comparing turf races and dirt races like comparing apples to oranges?

The consistency on this thread is pathetic.

I think her suck up third was mostly likely a total illusion, certainly I thought Pleasant Tap was running a very weak second to a dominant winner that day.

I think Jolypha was better on turf but if you think its dirt thats fine, I have no way to say it was not.

RolloTomasi · #2 11-15-2010, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

I think her suck up third was mostly likely a total illusion, certainly I thought Pleasant Tap was running a very weak second to a dominant winner that day.

I think Jolypha was better on turf but if you think its dirt thats fine, I have no way to say it was not.

What do you mean by "suck up"?

A rapid early pace that led to a meltdown with a bunch of closers coming to pick up all the pieces?

Actually, Jolypha was positioned in front of both AP Indy and Pleasant Tap early in the race--only 3 lengths off a :45+ half, but had to alter course to the inside of Sultry Song at the 3/8s, allowing the other two to move past her approaching the stretch, yet she had enough turn of foot to split horses and get back in front of Pleasant Tap midstretch, only to hang late.

Indian Charlie · #3 11-15-2010, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

What do you mean by "suck up"?

A rapid early pace that led to a meltdown with a bunch of closers coming to pick up all the pieces?

Actually, Jolypha was positioned in front of both AP Indy and Pleasant Tap early in the race--only 3 lengths off a :45+ half, but had to alter course to the inside of Sultry Song at the 3/8s, allowing the other two to move past her approaching the stretch, yet she had enough turn of foot to split horses and get back in front of Pleasant Tap midstretch, only to hang late.

That's the very definition for the term "suck up third"

slotdirt · #4 11-15-2010, 04:38 PM

It's easy to dismiss Southern Image because of his frailty, but when that horse was good, he was pretty good. No shame in finishing second to him.

dalakhani · #5 11-15-2010, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

It's easy to dismiss Southern Image because of his frailty, but when that horse was good, he was pretty good. No shame in finishing second to him.

Where else was she going to finish? That field behind her was abysmal.

He was a decent horse on his days but really...

RolloTomasi · #6 11-15-2010, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

That's the very definition for the term "suck up third"

Really? Even with her momentum being stopped at a critical moment?

Would Indian Charlie's 3rd in the Kentucky Derby be considered a "suck up"?

Indian Charlie · #7 11-15-2010, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Really? Even with her momentum being stopped at a critical moment?

Would Indian Charlie's 3rd in the Kentucky Derby be considered a "suck up"?

I was being facetious.

RolloTomasi · #8 11-15-2010, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I was being facetious.

I thought you might have been, but a "suck up" effort seems to have a million different meanings, so I wasn't sure.

I thought I was sharper than that, but I guess I need emoticons to help me discern the tone of certain posts.

Indian Charlie · #9 11-15-2010, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

I thought you might have been, but a "suck up" effort seems to have a million different meanings, so I wasn't sure.

I thought I was sharper than that, but I guess I need emoticons to help me discern the tone of certain posts.

lol.

yeah. perhaps you do.

you were not who i was referring to though when I said that.