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![]() The thing is that no one is discounting her effort in the classic. The point is that the rest of her campaign is so soft, unlike the other mares.
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![]() One could compete in $5 million races … the other can compete for no more than $2 million
Top-flight classic distance runners are superior to 8-furlong turf specialists. Sorry, Goldi fans … just the way it is… |
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Greatness is greatness. Goldikova is obviously great. Being an almost great classic distance runner isnt anything to be ashamed of. |
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![]() she won last year at 10f.......alas you will say that does not count so it seems you cant lose the way you frame your arguments.
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No one questions her distance ability, just her greatness... |
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![]() winning 14 grade 1 races, two BC races, and losing the other at the wire makes you great...........please name another horse with similar accomplishments that you dont consider great.......I need a frame of reference from your view point, maybe you only consider like 10 horses in the history great.
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As in, like, there is no freaking way she's better than a Secretariat or Spectacular Bid. Nor is she greater than a number of fillies and mares I can think of in the last 25 years. |
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Not denying her greatness, but the point of the article was to reveal the true quality of those "Grade 1" races in the company of below par California females. So we're talking about +/-4 true G1 fields, one of them in open company on the pro-ride.
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Do I think Charity can win? Well, I am walking around in yesterday's suit. |
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![]() I'd say a mile--on both turf and dirt--is probably where you'd find the toughest races nowadays.
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I've always thought the BC Mile (the turf edition) was one of the toughest, most competitive races.
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Also, which of the two horses mentioned actually won a BC race this year? Sorry Toll Booth fans ... just the way it is...
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![]() Goldikova won a 9f race this year in track record time. The idea that she's inferior because the majority of her wins are at 8fs is painfully stupid and would be propagated only by someone with a limited to non-existent understanding of horse racing. Who can that be?
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![]() I've had enough. Your ignorance, or trolling, has worn out my patience.
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984. |
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![]() I just did a back flip
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My reason for living has just ended! Actually, I was going to ask you if it was okay to start up a poll to see if there was anyone on DT more blatantly stupid or annoying than Smoothie. I guess that won't be necessary now!!! |
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![]() I'm sorry. It was a tired act. Specifically, a recent repeat of a post designed only to ellicit a response was the tripwire.
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984. |
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![]() Steve, you deserve HOY for pulling that trigger!
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![]() Thank you Lori, but alas, it would be a hollow victory... A make up vote for earlier campaigns when I faced better competition and shipped around the country in pursuit of real challenges. You know, back when I still drank, smoked and was at the top of my game.
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![]() Chuck, I realize this. I'm just pointing out the fact that stats can be misleading or stacked a certain way. The article is trying to point out a very large difference in the graded credentials that G and Z have defeated this year. I know Z didn't win the classic, but she did shame a lot of horses with a long list of graded achievements.
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