Racing is just so disorganized

[avance2000]

Originally Posted by oracle80

To further expound upon and illustrate the sheer insanity of the lack of racing's premier tracks and circuits to stop killing each others strength of stakes races, as written about by our host Steve, I'd like to point to the sheer insanity this upcoming weekend of 3Yo grass races all being run at the same time.

Belmont- Jamiaca Handicap, graded race on turf for 3 year olds.
Hawthorne- Hawthorne Derby, graded stakes race on turf for 3 year olds
Santa Anita-Oak Tree Derby, graded stakes race on turf for three year olds.


This is just ridiculous. Instead of one good field gathering together at one locale for a great race, we will have three watered down versions.
You'd think at least one of these venues would look at the other venues schedules upon release and call an audible and move the dates around a little so they didn't all conflict. This is quite stupid.

good points....but i guess my question is.....is there anything that the NTRA or anyone else can realistically do to correct this problem?

Originally Posted by avance2000

good points....but i guess my question is.....is there anything that the NTRA or anyone else can realistically do to correct this problem?

Look this drives the racing secretarys nuts. They all wanna put on the best show they can. You don't need an organization to do it. Just a little common sense.

And another thing ...

... and this particularly applies to the NYRA ...

... whenever a graded stakes races is run at ... say ... 9f around two turns on dirt ... why is it that none ... zero ... of the other nine races on the same card are run at that distance? Are the tracks oblivious to the fact that having some sort of yardstick for gauging the relative speed of stakes performances is very important?

It just buzzes me to see a 9f dirt stakes ... along with four turf races and five 6f sprints. How the heck can we get reliable speed ratings from cards like that?

Happens all the time in New York.

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

And another thing ...

... and this particularly applies to the NYRA ...

... whenever a graded stakes races is run at ... say ... 9f around two turns on dirt ... why is it that none ... zero ... of the other nine races on the same card are run at that distance? Are the tracks oblivious to the fact that having some sort of yardstick for gauging the relative speed of stakes performances is very important?

It just buzzes me to see a 9f dirt stakes ... along with four turf races and five 6f sprints. How the heck can we get reliable speed ratings from cards like that?

Happens all the time in New York.

Also happens on Ky Derby Day...

[Byebyemermaid]

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

And another thing ...

... and this particularly applies to the NYRA ...

... whenever a graded stakes races is run at ... say ... 9f around two turns on dirt ... why is it that none ... zero ... of the other nine races on the same card are run at that distance? Are the tracks oblivious to the fact that having some sort of yardstick for gauging the relative speed of stakes performances is very important?

It just buzzes me to see a 9f dirt stakes ... along with four turf races and five 6f sprints. How the heck can we get reliable speed ratings from cards like that?

Happens all the time in New York.

Brooklynite you might remember that the day they run the Belmont stakes they used to always run a starter allowance race at 1 1/2 mile.In fact i remember some of the horses names.On e of them was a horse called Rio Tunyan as well as Viborg.As i have stated before this sport lacks a rivalry and hasn't had one for years.There is so much money around to be made that owners and trainers have a smorgesboard of where they can go.I follow Mountaineer mostly and i see horses that have earnings of 600k and i say i've never heard of this horse.When i started following racing if a horse made 250k you knew who he was.

[sumitas]

JR Holmes won that 1 1/2 mi race the day Commendable won I believe. JR 's time was about .2 slower. i miss that race on Belmont day too.

Originally Posted by Byebyemermaid

Brooklynite you might remember that the day they run the Belmont stakes they used to always run a starter allowance race at 1 1/2 mile.In fact i remember some of the horses names.On e of them was a horse called Rio Tunyan as well as Viborg.

That was when tracks were alert to the needs of the true racing fan ...

... now they're more concerned about t-shirts and bobbleheads.

[SniperSB23]

Another brilliant quirk of the racing calendar I just noticed. There are only three races at six furlongs for older fillies and mares that are G1 or G2. Yet this year those three races were all scheduled in a 32 day span virtually guaranteeing that no horse would run in all three of them.

[disrespectnfool]

Originally Posted by avance2000

good points....but i guess my question is.....is there anything that the NTRA or anyone else can realistically do to correct this problem?

it's not a question of wether this can change, it has to.