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Old 11-10-2010, 10:27 PM
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What was the number for Fri? Attendance was pretty low...the weather or I should say temperature could've had something to do with it
According to Churchill attendance was 41,614. I'm just skeptical by nature and everyone I have talked to says there is no way that many people were there. What Sightseek says makes some sense although at this point it seems possible the numbers, all of them might be fudged.
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Old 11-10-2010, 10:29 PM
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According to Churchill attendance was 41,614. I'm just skeptical by nature and everyone I have talked to says there is no way that many people were there. What Sightseek says makes some sense although at this point it seems possible the numbers, all of them might be fudged.
There was definitely not that many people there. Sightseek is probably right about how they came up with that number.
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Old 11-10-2010, 10:32 PM
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There was definitely not that many people there. Sightseek is probably right about how they came up with that number.
If you were there Saturday, did it seem like 72,739?
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Old 11-10-2010, 10:35 PM
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If you were there Saturday, did it seem like 72,739?
It was packed but obviously I'd really only be guessing at the exact total...but yeah that is probably a pretty close estimate. Attendance wise between Fri and Sat it was like night and day...that's why I doubt Fridays number.

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Old 11-10-2010, 10:49 PM
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If you were there Saturday, did it seem like 72,739?
or closer to 69,214?
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Old 11-11-2010, 05:02 AM
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I've been to every Oaks/Derby the last 10 years and have a pretty good feel for the building and how it is when full. Friday's crowd was shockingly sparse. Saturday was well attended, but the attendance numbers certainly were ticket sales figures.

As to the original point, the 60 Minutes story on Zenyatta undoubtedly drove TV viewership up, but Churchill always hosts the best attended Cups. Zenyatta wasn't as big a draw in person as she was in front of the box given the Saturday gate was basically at the average attendance of previous BC visits to the Ville:

1988: 71,237
1991: 66,204
1994: 71,671
1998: 80,452
2000: 76,043
2006: 75,132 (Avg. 73,456)
2010: 72,739
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Old 11-11-2010, 05:33 AM
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I've been to every Oaks/Derby the last 10 years and have a pretty good feel for the building and how it is when full. Friday's crowd was shockingly sparse. Saturday was well attended, but the attendance numbers certainly were ticket sales figures.

As to the original point, the 60 Minutes story on Zenyatta undoubtedly drove TV viewership up, but Churchill always hosts the best attended Cups. Zenyatta wasn't as big a draw in person as she was in front of the box given the Saturday gate was basically at the average attendance of previous BC visits to the Ville:

1988: 71,237
1991: 66,204
1994: 71,671
1998: 80,452
2000: 76,043
2006: 75,132 (Avg. 73,456)
2010: 72,739
we can atest to the 60 Minute piece helping. we had several neighbors contact us about the saturday schedule. most of them watched most of the day not just Z's race.
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Old 11-11-2010, 06:12 AM
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Wait, so this was the least attended BC at the Downs since 1994?
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Old 11-11-2010, 09:52 AM
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I've been to every Oaks/Derby the last 10 years and have a pretty good feel for the building and how it is when full. Friday's crowd was shockingly sparse. Saturday was well attended, but the attendance numbers certainly were ticket sales figures.

As to the original point, the 60 Minutes story on Zenyatta undoubtedly drove TV viewership up, but Churchill always hosts the best attended Cups. Zenyatta wasn't as big a draw in person as she was in front of the box given the Saturday gate was basically at the average attendance of previous BC visits to the Ville:

1988: 71,237
1991: 66,204
1994: 71,671
1998: 80,452
2000: 76,043
2006: 75,132 (Avg. 73,456)
2010: 72,739
Next year is going to be a better barometer IMO, not comparing it to SA or past BC's.

Shouldn't you add Friday and Saturday together to make comparisons to previous years? Obviously they are watering down Saturday so direct comparisons to me don't make a lot of sense to other CD years.
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Old 11-11-2010, 02:26 PM
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Next year is going to be a better barometer IMO, not comparing it to SA or past BC's.

Shouldn't you add Friday and Saturday together to make comparisons to previous years? Obviously they are watering down Saturday so direct comparisons to me don't make a lot of sense to other CD years.
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Old 11-14-2010, 05:07 AM
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I've been to every Oaks/Derby the last 10 years and have a pretty good feel for the building and how it is when full. Friday's crowd was shockingly sparse. Saturday was well attended, but the attendance numbers certainly were ticket sales figures.

As to the original point, the 60 Minutes story on Zenyatta undoubtedly drove TV viewership up, but Churchill always hosts the best attended Cups. Zenyatta wasn't as big a draw in person as she was in front of the box given the Saturday gate was basically at the average attendance of previous BC visits to the Ville:

1988: 71,237
1991: 66,204
1994: 71,671
1998: 80,452
2000: 76,043
2006: 75,132 (Avg. 73,456)
2010: 72,739
So ticket sales for Churchill's first two day BC were 114,000. I wonder if the BC lost money agin.

The final hour of the telecast was up almost 200% from last year and was the highest viewed BC since the 80s. The one time TV viewers probably did nothing for handle but at least people watched. It was because of Zenyatta and probably the 60 minutes segment. Those who do not watch 60 minutes still don't know who she is and the ratings will go back to being abysmal again next year
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Old 11-14-2010, 12:33 PM
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So ticket sales for Churchill's first two day BC were 114,000. I wonder if the BC lost money agin.

The final hour of the telecast was up almost 200% from last year and was the highest viewed BC since the 80s. The one time TV viewers probably did nothing for handle but at least people watched. It was because of Zenyatta and probably the 60 minutes segment. Those who do not watch 60 minutes still don't know who she is and the ratings will go back to being abysmal again next year
Lots of people still claim she was bad for the sport.

Some are claiming the rise was cause it was on dirt.
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