Shireffs-- Zenyatta is HOY

RockHardTen1985 · #1 11-07-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

No it can't!

Um yes it can, the numbers dont lie. If Blame had won the Woodward, actually even ran in it, and performed better in the JCGC it would be lock city, he did not, so he is not lock city.

Dahoss · #2 11-07-2010, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Um yes it can, the numbers dont lie. If Blame had won the Woodward, actually even ran in it, and performed better in the JCGC it would be lock city, he did not, so he is not lock city.

I'm not having another pointless discussion with you. It's not even debatable. She defeated restricted company and lost her one race against unrestricted. The horse that beat her has had a very good year and beat much better fields than she has.

There is no way someone can make an arguement that she is more deserving of the award over Blame for what they have done on the track THIS YEAR.

RockHardTen1985 · #3 11-07-2010, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

I'm not having another pointless discussion with you. It's not even debatable. She defeated restricted company and lost her one race against unrestricted. The horse that beat her has had a very good year and beat much better fields than she has.

There is no way someone can make an arguement that she is more deserving of the award over Blame for what they have done on the track THIS YEAR.

There is no need to point out anything about a pointless discussion, you take shots all the time and I dont respond that way. Like in the NBA thread....
I have been keeping anything pointless to a minimum. I would be fine with Z winning HOY, no injustice would be done.

randallscott35 · #4 11-07-2010, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

There is no need to point out anything about a pointless discussion, you take shots all the time and I dont respond that way. Like in the NBA thread....
I have been keeping anything pointless to a minimum. I would be fine with Z winning HOY, no injustice would be done.

It isn't a lifetime achievement award. This is a non-discussion

RockHardTen1985 · #5 11-07-2010, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

It isn't a lifetime achievement award. This is a non-discussion

Im not really making a case for her, other then Blame would be the worst HOY ever...

randallscott35 · #6 11-07-2010, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Im not really making a case for her, other then Blame would be the worst HOY ever...

Favorite Trick

Cannon Shell · #7 11-07-2010, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Im not really making a case for her, other then Blame would be the worst HOY ever...

You are stupid

#8 11-07-2010, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You are stupid

Hey I'm part of this forum. I don't want to be left out. Aren't I stupid too?

Dahoss · #9 11-07-2010, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

There is no need to point out anything about a pointless discussion, you take shots all the time and I dont respond that way. Like in the NBA thread....
I have been keeping anything pointless to a minimum. I would be fine with Z winning HOY, no injustice would be done.

Yeah...you never take shots. You're squeaky clean. Step away from the computer for a few minutes this weekend.

RockHardTen1985 · #10 11-07-2010, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

Yeah...you never take shots. You're squeaky clean. Step away from the computer for a few minutes this weekend.

I was away from the computer all day Friday.... Spent noon-7pm at the racino. But thanks for the concern.

randallscott35 · #11 11-07-2010, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I was away from the computer all day Friday.... Spent noon-7pm at the racino. But thanks for the concern.

DaTruth · #12 11-07-2010, 01:27 PM

It comes as no great surprise that her connections still think she is HOY. Less defensible are the racing journalists who said she was HOY regardless of what happened on Saturday.

SCUDSBROTHER · #13 11-07-2010, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth

It comes as no great surprise that her connections still think she is HOY. Less defensible are the racing journalists who said she was HOY regardless of what happened on Saturday.

Who said that? I'll be honest, If she beats Blame by a head, I don't think she would of gotten the vote. I think she needed to dominate Blame. If people think this close defeat cost her the HOY, I think they're mistaken. It would of been close, but I think Blame still would of gotten HOY.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #14 11-07-2010, 02:34 PM

goldikova..

Cannon Shell · #15 11-07-2010, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

There is no need to point out anything about a pointless discussion, you take shots all the time and I dont respond that way. Like in the NBA thread....
I have been keeping anything pointless to a minimum. I would be fine with Z winning HOY, no injustice would be done.

You are stupid

Indian Charlie · #16 11-07-2010, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I have been keeping anything pointless to a minimum.

Says the poster with 5377 posts in about fifteen months.

DaTruth · #17 11-07-2010, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Says the poster with 5377 posts in about fifteen months.

I'm excited that I was discussing Zenyatta losing the Classic when I made my 1,000th post.

Cannon Shell · #18 11-07-2010, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by monipenny

Voters are not always voting for the best horse this year broheim. The body of work that Zenyatta has compiled and being 3 1/2 lengths clear sends a clear ringing endorsement to how wonderful a racemare she is. Ok, I will agree Blame won and people usually only remember who wins the Super Bowl and not the runners up. But, horses just as actors winning academy awards are sometimes rewarded for there life's work. And this does not always reflect a horses or actors finest work with being given such a award. My hope was to see a great race and that I most certainly did.

Why would you need to agree that Blame won? Was there some question?

gaut10 · #19 11-07-2010, 11:24 PM

The horses dont care if they win the awards. We do. its just like funerals, we are the only ones who care what the funeral is like.

Blame defeated tougher fields all year b/c his connections allowed him to do so. she did not b/c her connections chose not too. Horse racing in California is soft b/c of bad decisions by CHRB.

its obvious the big mare has no problems competing with any level of horses. while it is the connections perrogative to manicure her campaign, it adds no ammunition to their HOY campaign. Could have been a moot point had she run at TOGA and/or Belmont in the fall.

fyi, i think she is fabulous mare, but I am not in favor of paper champions.

Dahoss · #20 11-07-2010, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by monipenny

Voters are not always voting for the best horse this year broheim. The body of work that Zenyatta has compiled and being 3 1/2 lengths clear sends a clear ringing endorsement to how wonderful a racemare she is. Ok, I will agree Blame won and people usually only remember who wins the Super Bowl and not the runners up. But, horses just as actors winning academy awards are sometimes rewarded for there life's work. And this does not always reflect a horses or actors finest work with being given such a award. My hope was to see a great race and that I most certainly did.

But that is what voters should be voting on. Which is why there really should be no discussion. The award is horse of the year. On the track this year Blame had a better year. End of story.

I understand that she is going to get votes, but she shouldn't.