11/6 (CD): Breeders' Cup Saturday (Post Draw Fields; ML's)

Will someone tell me I'm crazy for wanting to single Here Comes Ben in the Dirt Mile?

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Will someone tell me I'm crazy for wanting to single Here Comes Ben in the Dirt Mile?

I'm not singling him, but don't think that's crazy at all.

[pweizer]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Will someone tell me I'm crazy for wanting to single Here Comes Ben in the Dirt Mile?

I think he is the most likely winner.

Paul

Any horse that can get to the winners circle 3 times in a row with Solis on board is what I consider special in this day and age. If I have to crash and burn then this is the race where I'll do so.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Will someone tell me I'm crazy for wanting to single Here Comes Ben in the Dirt Mile?

No, but I can tell you other reasons you are crazy, if you'd like.

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

No, but I can tell you other reasons you are crazy, if you'd like.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Will someone tell me I'm crazy for wanting to single Here Comes Ben in the Dirt Mile?

I dont like him much, not sure Ill even cover him.

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I dont like him much, not sure Ill even cover him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9dI9U6RH9g

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9dI9U6RH9g

BEST SHOW ON TV.

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

BEST SHOW ON TV.

Hard to argue with that. It's a fantastic show. Rick's Restoration show was pretty garbage, however.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Will someone tell me I'm crazy for wanting to single Here Comes Ben in the Dirt Mile?

I am in love with this guy in this race. You're crazy, but not for singling him

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by philcski

I am in love with this guy in this race. You're crazy, but not for singling him

What am I missing on him? I think Tizway ROLLS.

[Dahoss]

I think Hurricane Ike is a live longshot in the Dirt Mile. Was super at Churchill in the Trial. No shot in the King's Bishop off the layoff and that track and too far last time. Like the cutback and I've heard he's been working well at Churchill.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I think Hurricane Ike is a live longshot in the Dirt Mile. Was super at Churchill in the Trial. No shot in the King's Bishop off the layoff and that track and too far last time. Like the cutback and I've heard he's been working well at Churchill.

My issue with Hurricane Ike is that his Churchill performance was super, but that was third off the layoff on a surface that he was suppose to relish, goes away after that slop effort like alot of them do, and really doesn't do much afterwards.

Mad Flatter is interesting to me. And Cool Coal Man, if ignored, has the numbers to be in the mix.

Although, if Tizway runs his last race, they are probably all running for 2nd.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Scav

My issue with Hurricane Ike is that his Churchill performance was super, but that was third off the layoff on a surface that he was suppose to relish, goes away after that slop effort like alot of them do, and really doesn't do much afterwards.

Mad Flatter is interesting to me. And Cool Coal Man, if ignored, has the numbers to be in the mix.

Although, if Tizway runs his last race, they are probably all running for 2nd.

Tizway's probably the horse to beat, but if Crown of Thorns takes to the dirt like I think he will, he'll win. Beyond those two, this is the most wide open race on the card IMO.

[hockey2315]

The three logicals tower over the rest of the field in the mile. . . I'd probably use Aikenite if he got in, though. Call me crazy.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Scav

My issue with Hurricane Ike is that his Churchill performance was super, but that was third off the layoff on a surface that he was suppose to relish, goes away after that slop effort like alot of them do, and really doesn't do much afterwards.

I assume he had issues after the Derby Trial. I can't imagine the plan was to take 4 months off. I guess he really hasn't done anything since, but he wasn't in great spots IMO. He had no shot in the King's Bishop, against the horse that probably would have been chalk in the sprint had he not gotten injured. And I don't think he wants any part of two turns.

I think he has a shot to fall into a nice trip behind the pace. Tizway is a nice horse, but I'm not crazy about him at a short price and he hasn't exactly run well outside of NY.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

What am I missing on him? I think Tizway ROLLS.

He's 7-5-1-1 around 1 turn (undefeated since breaking his maiden), loves CD, can handle multiple pace scenarios, and is one of the fastest in the field. What's not to love?

I'm concerned Tizway will get caught up chasing a crazy pace. Mad Flatter, Morning Line, Thisskyhasnolimit, Tropic Storm, and Vineyard Haven all have tons of speed. That leaves him two options- press with them and potentially get blown up or try to settle farther back which he's already proven to not prefer.

I will key Here Comes Ben with Awesome Gem (assuming he's a big price), Crown of Thorns, Dakota Phone (again need a big price), Gayego, and Hurricane Ike.

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I assume he had issues after the Derby Trial. I can't imagine the plan was to take 4 months off. I guess he really hasn't done anything since, but he wasn't in great spots IMO. He had no shot in the King's Bishop, against the horse that probably would have been chalk in the sprint had he not gotten injured. And I don't think he wants any part of two turns.

I think he has a shot to fall into a nice trip behind the pace. Tizway is a nice horse, but I'm not crazy about him at a short price and he hasn't exactly run well outside of NY.

I also think he can get a piece at a nice price- of the 3yo's he's clearly the best choice.

[Bogey]

Originally Posted by philcski

He's 7-5-1-1 around 1 turn (undefeated since breaking his maiden), loves CD, can handle multiple pace scenarios, and is one of the fastest in the field. What's not to love?

I'm concerned Tizway will get caught up chasing a crazy pace. Mad Flatter, Morning Line, Thisskyhasnolimit, Tropic Storm, and Vineyard Haven all have tons of speed. That leaves him two options- press with them and potentially get blown up or try to settle farther back which he's already proven to not prefer.

I will key Here Comes Ben with Awesome Gem (assuming he's a big price), Crown of Thorns, Dakota Phone (again need a big price), Gayego, and Hurricane Ike.



I also think he can get a piece at a nice price- of the 3yo's he's clearly the best choice.

Confirmed for the Marathon, I thought he was interesting in the Dirt Mile as well.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by Bogey

Confirmed for the Marathon, I thought he was interesting in the Dirt Mile as well.

He could just be a lot better than anything in the Marathon.
Looks like he should be a square price.