Paddy O to Classic O

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Potentially, either of the two Sadler candy horses.

Certainly at 9f or less, Sidney's Candy would destroy Ploddy so Slowdo.

I don't think Paddy O Prado is much either. But, at the same time, I'm sort of surprised at how Sidney's Candy has become such a revered turf horse based on one race where he beat nothing.

I know you aren't really saying it, but I've seen it on boards for the last few weeks. I've even seen some that like him in the Mile. I'd like to see him run another good race on turf before crowning him yet and going into the mile without a prep doesn't bode well for him IMO.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I don't think Paddy O Prado is much either. But, at the same time, I'm sort of surprised at how Sidney's Candy has become such a revered turf horse based on one race where he beat nothing.

I know you aren't really saying it, but I've seen it on boards for the last few weeks. I've even seen some that like him in the Mile. I'd like to see him run another good race on turf before crowning him yet and going into the mile without a prep doesn't bode well for him IMO.

I'm just saying that it really isn't much of a stretch to say that SC might be the better turf horse. Yeah, he beat nothing, but you can say that about Ploddy el Slowmo too.

And, unlike with el Slowmo, SC might be an awesome horse on turf. He certainly has more upside to him.

I agree on the lack of prep. Something smells fishy there.

The mile is by miles the most interesting race on the card.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Paddy O' Prado is a very respectable horse as far as 3yo North American turf males go relative to what we've seen in that division since the days of Kitten's Joy and Artie Schiller.

[Smooth Operator]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Paddy O' Prado is a very respectable horse as far as 3yo North American turf males go relative to what we've seen in that division since the days of Kitten's Joy and Artie Schiller.

Disgraceful that this country can't consistently produce turfers which can compete with the Euros


We're hell at churning out distance-challenged dirt speedballs, tho.............

[NTamm1215]

There are about 8-9 probables in the Breeders' Cup Turf. Does Paddy O' Prado have a very good chance against horses like Behkabad or Workforce? Not really, but to say that he has "no chance" or doesn't stack up even in a small way is foolish.

His Preakness is a much better indication of his dirt ability than his Derby in my opinion and this decision is foolish. I'll be absolutely stunned if he's in the superfecta.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

There are about 8-9 probables in the Breeders' Cup Turf. Does Paddy O' Prado have a very good chance against horses like Behkabad or Workforce? Not really, but to say that he has "no chance" or doesn't stack up even in a small way is foolish.

His Preakness is a much better indication of his dirt ability than his Derby in my opinion and this decision is foolish. I'll be absolutely stunned if he's in the superfecta.

5 million reasons, I agree he has no chance but damned if the Classic doesn't look like a Grade 2 this year.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

top royelle in her day would crush them all

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

There are about 8-9 probables in the Breeders' Cup Turf. Does Paddy O' Prado have a very good chance against horses like Behkabad or Workforce? Not really, but to say that he has "no chance" or doesn't stack up even in a small way is foolish.

His Preakness is a much better indication of his dirt ability than his Derby in my opinion and this decision is foolish. I'll be absolutely stunned if he's in the superfecta.

Nick-
What race has he run that puts him within 5 lenghts of Workforce? I dont think its foolish at all to say he had 0 chance in the Turf. I honestly might be more stunned if he went top 4 in the turf then in the Classic, where IMO its the big 4 and EVERYONE ELSE, and what are the odds that everyone of the big 4 def. fire?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Nick-
What race has he run that puts him within 5 lenghts of Workforce? I dont think its foolish at all to say he had 0 chance in the Turf. I honestly might be more stunned if he went top 4 in the turf then in the Classic, where IMO its the big 4 and EVERYONE ELSE, and what are the odds that everyone of the big 4 def. fire?

Go watch the Preakness again. He's not a dirt horse, it's simple. Workforce won what was billed as one of the weakest Arcs in years. He's not some invincible force from Europe. Behkabad is a nice horse too but these horses are not nearly as highly regarded as the Euros we had in the 2005-2009 Turf editions.

He plugged along for third in a historically terrible Derby run over a quagmire where he got a spectacular pace setup. His dirt ability was exposed in Maryland and I can't see why that was a fluke.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Disgraceful that this country can't consistently produce turfers which can compete with the Euros


We're hell at churning out distance-challenged dirt speedballs, tho.............

The 2 best euro sires of recent times, Sadlers Wells and Danehill are both American breds, born in KY.