Paddy O to Classic O

[Port Conway Lane]

What is so great about him on a sloppy track ?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

What is so great about him on a sloppy track ?

LOL nothing... They are all making his plod run in the Derby into something.

[the_fat_man]

You're all forgetting the BIG ASS factor. Romans has the biggest ASS (luck) in racing this side of Nick Zito. Look at all the rail trips his winners got @ SAR.

Is it so far fetched that:

a) it rains torrentially
b) a few horses go down in the race
c) those that stay up get ridiculously wide trips
d) POP skims the rail and wins going away

stranger things have happened and I'd think twice before dismissing ASS LUCK the size of Romans'

[The Indomitable DrugS]

PoP has no shot in a totally wide open and sub-par edition of the BC Classic.

He would be better served in the Turf mile - the Turf - or the Dirt Mile.

His big turn move in the Derby came in a 27.07 fourth 1/4 mile - it was an optical illusion. Maybe not as much of an optical illusion as Ice Box and Make Music For Me's big late moves through a 52.87 last half mile ... but still. He showed his true dirt colors in the Preakness.

The 2010 Kentucky Derby basically consisted of two races. An absolutely strong dash to the half mile pole in brilliant time over a slower than par track .. and a sinking ship final half mile of pure stagger.

The top five finishers after 6fs were:
1. Conveyance
2. Sidney's Candy
3. Noble's Promise
4. Super Saver
5. Discreetly Mine

Just pretend the last half mile of that race never even happened and everyone would be better off for it.

Make Music For Me went from 20th beaten 24 lengths after six furlongs - to 4th beaten 4.75 lengths at the wire. If that POS can make up 19.25 lengths in the final half mile .. you know the pace fig wasn't lying. That horse had never been more than 5 lengths off of the early pace in his career - and Rosario had him 24.75 lengths back and in last after just a quarter mile. Really smart ride as it played out.

[Travis Stone]

I don't blame them. I won't bet him, but I don't blame them... and I'm pleased to get another body in the race to help juice those exotics if some fun stuff happens.

[Cannon Shell]

That Zenyatta is sure scaring them off. Guys are lining up to run turf horses against her...

Personally I think drugs is right. The dirt mile is hardly a stellar field and he would have a big shot on the cutback. I still can't believe musket man isnt running in the mile. That race was made for horses like him.

Doubt it rains. It's drier than Ann Moss' hoo ha here.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

PoP has no shot in a totally wide open and sub-par edition of the BC Classic.

He would be better served in the Turf mile - the Turf - or the Dirt Mile.

His big turn move in the Derby came in a 27.07 fourth 1/4 mile - it was an optical illusion. Maybe not as much of an optical illusion as Ice Box and Make Music For Me's big late moves through a 52.87 last half mile ... but still. He showed his true dirt colors in the Preakness.

The 2010 Kentucky Derby basically consisted of two races. An absolutely strong dash to the half mile pole in brilliant time over a slower than par track .. and a sinking ship final half mile of pure stagger.

The top five finishers after 6fs were:
1. Conveyance
2. Sidney's Candy
3. Noble's Promise
4. Super Saver
5. Discreetly Mine

Just pretend the last half mile of that race never even happened and everyone would be better off for it.

Make Music For Me went from 20th beaten 24 lengths after six furlongs - to 4th beaten 4.75 lengths at the wire. If that POS can make up 19.25 lengths in the final half mile .. you know the pace fig wasn't lying. That horse had never been more than 5 lengths off of the early pace in his career - and Rosario had him 24.75 lengths back and in last after just a quarter mile. Really smart ride as it played out.

When you speak people listen.

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

LOL nothing... They are all making his plod run in the Derby into something.

Now now look at him again and you'll see he is good in the slop.

[dalakhani]

Why can't he hit the board? He loves the track and he has improved since the last time he ran on it.

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Why can't he hit the board? He loves the track and he has improved since the last time he ran on it.

I'm not so sure there is any evidence he loves the track or the slop. Both starts at Churchill were in the slop and the one out of the money was his debut sprinting.
He most definitely has improved.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

Now now look at him again and you'll see he is good in the slop.

I know, that 1 race makes him good. Kinda like MTB good, right?

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I know, that 1 race makes him good. Kinda like MTB good, right?

Look deeper my friend

[randallscott35]

Since I'm not impressed with the Classic division I think this is the right decision.

[hockey2315]

Pretty sure they're paying more for SC than was offered for Paddy. . . Not sure either are worth it.

Hossy - I'm probably one of the people you had in mind w/ the SC thing. It's not that I think he's a good bet in the mile (he can't super high, right?), but the chance of him freaking or just being that good and beating the chalk if she's off her game seems more likely than Paco Boy beating her. Have to do more homework, though.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Hossy - I'm probably one of the people you had in mind w/ the SC thing. It's not that I think he's a good bet in the mile (he can't super high, right?), but the chance of him freaking or just being that good and beating the chalk if she's off her game seems more likely than Paco Boy beating her. Have to do more homework, though.

I actually didn't even know you liked him. I was thinking about another board. I just get skeptical with run off performances like his, especially on turf.