Nancy Pelosi, Communist?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by gales0678

cut defense , medicare by 20% across the board

get rid of the dept of labor , education , agriculture

raise the retirement age on ssi to 70

requre all new gov't employees at all levels to contribute to their pension and to their healtcare

those are a start riot , what do you think ?

I think the above is more generalized political babble.

Show me what particular 20% part of Medicare you're going to eliminate (what actual services you are taking away, and from whom) Name the services and the amount.

Same with defense.

You get rid of the Dept of Labor, Education and Agriculture (and give me a plan for doing it) what do you do with the disaster that immediately ensues from the programs that are - poof - gone?

I like the last one. How much? Give some dollar amounts.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Riot

I think the above is more generalized political babble.

Show me what particular 20% part of Medicare you're going to eliminate (what actual services you are taking away, and from whom) Name the services and the amount.

Same with defense.

You get rid of the Dept of Labor, Education and Agriculture (and give me a plan for doing it) what do you do with the disaster that immediately ensues from the programs that are - poof - gone?

I like the last one. How much? Give some dollar amounts.

medicare / defense , across the board cuts in all areas by 20% it's that simple

everyone on meidcare shares the pain - providers and recipients

defense - cut back on some new weapons , let go some overhanging fruit in the military - it can be done i
m sure

larbor and education are not needed they can be run on the state level with no federal dollars , i wouldn't totally phaze out agriculture but i am sure it could be trimmed 25 % or more


as for new employees - they all would be required to fund their pensions with a minimum of 8% of their salary with an additional funding to pay for their healtcare costs - ie no free ride , every check you get hit with a payment for your medical and dental

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by gales0678

medicare / defense , across the board cuts in all areas by 20% it's that simple

everyone on meidcare shares the pain - providers and recipients

defense - cut back on some new weapons , let go some overhanging fruit in the military - it can be done i
m sure

larbor and education are not needed they can be run on the state level with no federal dollars , i wouldn't totally phaze out agriculture but i am sure it could be trimmed 25 % or more


as for new employees - ty all would be required to fund their pensions with a minimum of 8% of their salary with an additional funding to pay for their healtcare costs - ie no free ride , every check you get hit with a payment for your medical and dental

I agree with you about no free rides for people who want health insurance. Im putting my son through college right now. Why should my money that I earn go to support someone else. Is anyone going to help me pay to put my son through college?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

I agree with you about no free rides for people who want health insurance. Im putting my son through college right now. Why should my money that I earn go to support someone else. Is anyone going to help me pay to put my son through college?

i would help but serling's been cold lately and i have no extra cash

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

I agree with you about no free rides for people who want health insurance. Im putting my son through college right now. Why should my money that I earn go to support someone else. Is anyone going to help me pay to put my son through college?

I assume you'll only consider a private college, right?

[Riot]

medicare / defense , across the board cuts in all areas by 20% it's that simple

No, it's not that simple.

Which particular services are you going to put into that 20% and take way to save money? They have to be named. Echocardiograms? Pap smears? Serum chemistries for monitoring of liver function when the patient is on a NSAID?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Riot

No, it's not that simple.

Which particular services are you going to put into that 20% and take way to save money? They have to be named. Echocardiograms? Pap smears? Serum chemistries for monitoring of liver function when the patient is on a NSAID?

i would simply fund medicare at 80% of what it currently gets ,how is that not simple eneough

there would be 20% less dollars spent on echocardiograms , pap smears , etc etc etc

[Riot]

Originally Posted by gales0678

i would simply fund medicare at 80% of what it currently gets ,how is that not simple eneough

there would be 20% less dollars spent on echocardiograms , pap smears , etc etc etc

So, Medicare would continue to cover everything normally, until the money ran out for that year? Then nobody could be covered?

It's easy to say, "cut Medicare 20%" But that means absolutely nothing in real life. The devil is in the details.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Riot

So, Medicare would continue to cover everything normally, until the money ran out for that year? Then nobody could be covered?

It's easy to say, "cut Medicare 20%" But that means absolutely nothing in real life. The devil is in the details.

there can be 20% cut in medicare , just like in defense

you have to find where the fat is and eliminate it can be done

i'm sure , fraud makes up about 10% of the medicare budget as is , so you are really only cutting it 10%

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by gales0678

there can be 20% cut in medicare , just like in defense

you have to find where the fat is and eliminate it can be done

i'm sure , fraud makes up about 10% of the medicare budget as is , so you are really only cutting it 10%

We're are many fold over budget. Cut it all. No sacred cows.

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by Riot

So, Medicare would continue to cover everything normally, until the money ran out for that year? Then nobody could be covered?

It's easy to say, "cut Medicare 20%" But that means absolutely nothing in real life. The devil is in the details.

The Devil sure was in the details of that 2500+ page Obamacare Bill that nobody actually bothered to read before they voted YES. Now the Govt. is in charge of deciding who gets a waiver and who doesn't. NY Teachers Union? McDonalds? Give me a break.

[SOREHOOF]

If ANYONE needs a waiver, it might not be "The Goods".