Shirreffs says Zenyatta deserves '10 Horse of the Year

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by CSC

Reading some of the comments here, I'm curious to all the detractors of Zenyatta will they offer 10-1 odds that she will not win the classic?

What gambler would offer 10-1 on a horse that will be the prohibitive favorite?

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

What gambler would offer 10-1 on a horse that will be the prohibitive favorite?

Well, I wouldn't because I think there's a real possibilty she can win, but others may be dead set against her. Or it certainly sounds like it from reading the posts here of late.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by CSC

Well, I wouldn't because I think there's a real possibilty she can win, but others may be dead set against her. Or it certainly sounds like it from reading the posts here of late.

You think there's a real possibilty she can win? You don't say...

Big difference between not thinking a horse will win and offering 10-1 on a horse that will be a prohibitive favorite. I would think this should be obvious.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

You think there's a real possibilty she can win? You don't say...

Big difference between not thinking a horse will win and offering 10-1 on a horse that will be a prohibitive favorite. I would think this should be obvious.

She could run her best race and still finish second, Blame or Quality Road could both run career highs? Lookin at Lucky is an improving 3 yr old and could be deemed as extremely dangerous, and finally those that believe Zenyatta has beaten nothing in her career, as you have pointed out many times here would entertain the thought atleast.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by CSC

She could run her best race and still finish second, Blame or Quality Road could both run career highs? Lookin at Lucky is an improving 3 yr old and could be deemed as extremely dangerous, and finally those that believe Zenyatta has beaten nothing in her career, as you have pointed out many times here would entertain the thought atleast.

Answer a question directly for once. Why would anyone offer 10-1 on a horse that will be a prohibitive favorite? It makes no sense.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Answer a question directly for once. Why would anyone offer 10-1 on a horse that will be a prohibitive favorite? It makes no sense.

as a bookmaker maybe to attract all the action because they feel she should be 100/1?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

as a bookmaker maybe to attract all the action because they feel she should be 100/1?

I hope this is some of your well known humor.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

as a bookmaker maybe to attract all the action because they feel she should be 100/1?

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?!

No sentient being on the planet with any understanding of numbers would put her fair odds at 100-1. . . especially those in the business of setting lines and taking bets.

[slotdirt]

If I had a load of cash, I'd pay whomever would take it to not run Zenyatta at CD and instead go in some fake race out in CA just so I wouldn't have to hear about Jay Hovdey's Zenyatta boner for the next five years if she actually won.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Answer a question directly for once. Why would anyone offer 10-1 on a horse that will be a prohibitive favorite? It makes no sense.

I'll give you 3 infact.

1. Someone that thinks she will be a complete bust on dirt
2. Someone that thinks she has been the luckiest horse on earth
3. Someone that thinks she has beaten absolutely no one

Let me assume your follow up question, just because she is the favorite it means diddly squat, may I remind you of Dollar Bill in the Derby 6-1? So what does that mean, unless you do rate Zenyatta a little higher than you are letting on?

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by CSC

I'll give you 3 infact.

1. Someone that thinks she will be a complete bust on dirt
2. Someone that thinks she has been the luckiest horse on earth
3. Someone that thinks she has beaten absolutely no one

Let me assume your follow up question, just because she is the favorite it means diddly squat, may I remind you of Dollar Bill in the Derby 6-1? So what does that mean, unless you do rate Zenyatta a little higher than you are letting on?

Even if you hated Zenyatta, why offer higher odds than you would have to to get action? People aren't offering 10-1 on even money shots on Betfair, they're offering 3/2 or 2-1.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by CSC

I'll give you 3 infact.

1. Someone that thinks she will be a complete bust on dirt
2. Someone that thinks she has been the luckiest horse on earth
3. Someone that thinks she has beaten absolutely no one

Let me assume your follow up question, just because she is the favorite it means diddly squat, may I remind you of Dollar Bill in the Derby 6-1? So what does that mean, unless you do rate Zenyatta a little higher than you are letting on?

You find someone offering her at 10-1 and I'll show you a sucker. Plain and simple.

I think she's going to be off the board, but I know enough not to offer up 10-1 on a horse that is going to be 2-1 or less. Only in the land of Zenyatta does that make sense.