Your most successful Breeders' Cup

[The Indomitable DrugS]

2009, 2004, 2008, 2002 were all big BC's for me.

2007 was easily the most bitter one for me. John Murtagh not riding Dylan Thomas out and losing a dead tight photo for 4th place cost me $6,000 in a TVG contest.

The same day, Hystericalady (9/1) was easily my biggest bet of the entire day - and Ginger Punch came skating up the inside to beat her. I also posted here in a thread right before the Breeders Cup that my "best bet" for that years BC was a cold trifecta of Midnight Lute over Idiot Proof over Benny The Bull in the BC Sprint. The Midnight Lute-Idiot Proof exacta paid $50 - my attempt to kill the world failed when Benny The Bull was 4th at 7/1 .. Talent Search held him off for 3rd. He beats TS in the DeFrancis next out - and is champion sprinter the following year. In that years Classic, my whole entire bet was a trifecta keying Street Sense in the 3rd spot and using only Curlin, Hard Spun and Lawyer Ron in positions 1 and 2. That bet looked as good as gold on the turn .. but Street Sense somehow was caught for 3rd very late by Awesome Gem. The Curlin over Hard Spun exacta paid over $70 - so it wasn't a measly miss like some might now think.

I ended up winning $1,500 for 2nd in the contest and having a not so bad betting day but was way more miserable than I ever was in years like 2000 when I missed everything and had a really horrid read on a few races.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

2009, 2004, 2008, 2002 were all big BC's for me.

2007 was easily the most bitter one for me. John Murtagh not riding Dylan Thomas out and losing a dead tight photo for 4th place cost me $6,000 in a TVG contest.

The same day, Hystericalady (9/1) was easily my biggest bet of the entire day - and Ginger Punch came skating up the inside to beat her. I also posted here in a thread right before the Breeders Cup that my "best bet" for that years BC was a cold trifecta of Midnight Lute over Idiot Proof over Benny The Bull in the BC Sprint. The Midnight Lute-Idiot Proof exacta paid $50 - my attempt to kill the world failed when Benny The Bull was 4th at 7/1 .. Talent Search held him off for 3rd. He beats TS in the DeFrancis next out - and is champion sprinter the following year. In that years Classic, my whole entire bet was a trifecta keying Street Sense in the 3rd spot and using only Curlin, Hard Spun and Lawyer Ron in positions 1 and 2. That bet looked as good as gold on the turn .. but Street Sense somehow was caught for 3rd very late by Awesome Gem. The Curlin over Hard Spun exacta paid over $70 - so it wasn't a measly miss like some might now think.

I ended up winning $1,500 for 2nd in the contest and having a not so bad betting day but was way more miserable than I ever was in years like 2000 when I missed everything and had a really horrid read on a few races.

Oh please.

I listened to you on Dylan Thomas instead of going with my gut and using Kip. That cost me 6k in that stupid contest.

You more than made up for it with your ghastly good luck in the 2009 contest again edging me out for the win. The only reason Papa Clem got slammed in the Derby was to preserve your win.

Or the jock gearing down on that turf horse in the race before that. Nice that he came back and won a g1 next out at a big price.

That was a bad beat with DT at least.

[Indian Charlie]

And don't even get me started with Precious Kitten that year in the BC.

I thought for sure when she was assassinated in her race that you were a lock to win.

I felt like puking after the filly and mare turf.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

And don't even get me started with Precious Kitten that year in the BC.

I thought for sure when she was assassinated in her race that you were a lock to win.

I felt like puking after the filly and mare turf.

Precious Kitten was every bit as retarded a move as Kip Deville.

Kip Deville was 8/1 in a 13 horse field
Dylan Thomas was 4/5 in a 7 horse field

The big leader and eventual narrow winner for some monumentally idiotic reason decided not to use DT and instead used Proud Spell in the Juv Fillies. You had to gain on him - I had to gain on him - only you would think the best way to make up big ground on a complete idiot would be to act like an even bigger idiot.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Precious Kitten was every bit as retarded a move as Kip Deville.

Kip Deville was 8/1 in a 13 horse field
Dylan Thomas was 4/5 in a 7 horse field

The big leader and eventual narrow winner for some monumentally idiotic reason decided not to use DT and instead used Proud Spell in the Juv Fillies. You had to gain on him - I had to gain on him - only you would think the best way to make up big ground on a complete idiot would be to act like an even bigger idiot.

Dude, I had Precious Kitten for the duration of the contest. With the idea that she was the horse most likely to improve the most over the course of the summer and into the fall. Thus, score a lot of points that few others would have. Should I have dropped her for the BC? It's idiotic to think she would not have scored points in that race had she not beein assassinated.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Oh please.

I listened to you on Dylan Thomas instead of going with my gut and using Kip. That cost me 6k in that stupid contest.

It only cost you because DT didn't finish in the top 4 and Kip Deville happened to win.

Only a complete tard would have neglected using Dylan Thomas and used Kip Deville with multi moves available and in your position at that time - in a contest that rewards nothing for odds. It's like you're blaming me for not being an all-out tard.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

It only cost you because DT didn't finish in the top 4 and Kip Deville happened to win.

Only a complete tard would have neglected using Dylan Thomas and used Kip Deville with multi moves available and in your position at that time - in a contest that rewards nothing for odds. It's like you're blaming me for not being an all-out tard.

I'm not blaming you at all. I'm blaming myself for being an idiot.

My thinking was that I was going to get points with Precious Kitten and one of the juvenille runners, neither of which you or that other wop guy had.

Since the mile to me was a complete clusterfukk, I went with DT in an easier spot to score points. Especially since the other guy didn't have DT either. I felt that Kip was the most logical horse in the mile, but that the mile was a much more difficult race due to field size and how open it was for the win.

What really made me mad at myself though was that I kept saying for 3 months before that that DT is the single most overrated horse in Europe in like 10 years, and I ended up using him.

I don't know why you keep thinking I blamed you for my own dumb move.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

What really made me mad at myself though was that I kept saying for 3 months before that that DT is the single most overrated horse in Europe in like 10 years, and I ended up using him.

I don't know why you keep thinking I blamed you for my own dumb move.

Who cares if he was the single most overrated horse? He was the better move. Obviously.

That can still be said after the fact - even though he finished 5th of 8 at Kip Deville won a total scramble.

If you were in a hopeless position - yeah, using Kip and not using DT would have been a somewhat rational move as that could have leapfrogged you in the money. From 3rd though, with differences against me, and the leader not using DT ... you merely did what any sane person would do.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Who cares if he was the single most overrated horse? He was the better move. Obviously.

That can still be said after the fact - even though he finished 5th of 8 at Kip Deville won a total scramble.

If you were in a hopeless position - yeah, using Kip and not using DT would have been a somewhat rational move as that could have leapfrogged you in the money. From 3rd though, with differences against me, and the leader not using DT ... you merely did what any sane person would do.

Yeah, that's the part that gets me. If that dunce had used DT, I have no problem going with Kip instead.

It just made no sense that he didn't use DT!

In all the scenarios in my head leading up to the final day, not a one did I imagine him not using DT. I think that is why I was so flummoxed the night before.

Too bad I didn't have multiple entries, huh?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Yeah, that's the part that gets me. If that dunce had used DT, I have no problem going with Kip instead.

It just made no sense that he didn't use DT!

ESPN could do an entire 30 for 30 series show on how that guy won. He kept pulling rabbits out of his ass - and almost pissed away a gigantic lead despite the monumental lunacy of not using DT while leading on the last day.

Too bad there was no such contest of any kind ending on BC day of '09.

My worst Breeders Cup's from a betting standpoint always seem to be at Churchill. I hope that trend doesn't continue.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

The same day, Hystericalady (9/1) was easily my biggest bet of the entire day - and Ginger Punch came skating up the inside to beat her.

This is one of the worst memories I have in gambling. Jerry Baird gave Ginger Punch the rail going down the backstretch and that was it. If she goes wide, I think Hystericalady beats her. Oh well.

[Capote3]

1993.

At the Danville, IL OTB with 2 MTP and long lines at the windows, my dad (who has corrupted me) says..."If the 11 ever gets the lead, nobody will catch him". He got up, said "son go play a 1 (Bertrando)-11 (Arcangues) Exacta Box" then he ran to the window. I looked at my tickets and saw I had $5 on the 11 to Place and decided not to stand in line (I was a lazy 22 yr old with a cold beer in front of me).

Well, Dad made it to window and played the following:

$10 Win on 11
$5 Ebox 1,11
$2 Tri 1-11 w 1-11 w All

It was, without a doubt, the worst 45 minute drive home I have ever had. I am sick to my stomach even as I write this darn post.

I will be front and center this year to try and make amends.......

[Sightseek]

The first day last year.

Worst play evah?

2006 Classic - trifecta key of Bernardini / Invasor / Premium Tap, Giacomo, Brother Derek

[parsixfarms]

1992, 1999, 2002, 2006.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

This is one of the worst memories I have in gambling. Jerry Baird gave Ginger Punch the rail going down the backstretch and that was it. If she goes wide, I think Hystericalady beats her. Oh well.

That beat was probably worth more for me than any other (not involving pick 6's.)

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

This is one of the worst memories I have in gambling. Jerry Baird gave Ginger Punch the rail going down the backstretch and that was it. If she goes wide, I think Hystericalady beats her. Oh well.

I think if Hollendorfer had the courage to leave Russell Baze on Hysterical Lady IMO you never would have lost that race. Eddie Castro didn't actually do anything wrong. He just didn't do enough right. RB would have made the difference.

Biggest BC score?

Two on the same day.

200 win/place Furthest Land. 100 exacta box Furthest Land/Ready's Echo

27k comission for Dancing in Silks winning the Sprint

Quite an enjoyable afternoon in Arcadia

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

I think if Hollendorfer had the courage to leave Russell Baze on Hysterical Lady IMO you never would have lost that race. Eddie Castro didn't actually do anything wrong. He just didn't do enough right. RB would have made the difference.

Biggest BC score?

Two on the same day.

200 win/place Furthest Land. 100 exacta box Furthest Land/Ready's Echo

27k comission for Dancing in Silks winning the Sprint

Quite an enjoyable afternoon in Arcadia

I still can't believe Furthest Land went off at 20-1....

[dagolfer33]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

I still can't believe Furthest Land went off at 20-1....

I still remember vividly the comment in the racing form on Furthest Land, off a huge number at TP, "....I'd like to see THAT again".

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

I still can't believe Furthest Land went off at 20-1....

All of these sorts of sayings are redboarding. After the fact the odds always look ridiculous.

[Dahoss]

When you look at the trip Furthest Land got and then look at how he ran after that win, hard to take that win at face value. But that doesn't matter when you cash. Nice score to anyone that had him.