10/9 (BEL): Champagne S., Frizette S., Jamaica H. (G1's)

[JerseyJ]

Originally Posted by Betsy

Huh? The point that poster was making was that Stay Thirsty doesn't belong in the Juvenile, but rather in an allowance race - at least tha's how it sounded. I also never said he should run in an allowance race.

No, I think it's asinine that he's going to train up the the Juvenile off a 2 month layoff, with his last race at 7 furlongs.

I don't even think you're speaking English because what you just posted makes no sense whatsoever.

I think I am speaking fine English matter of factly. In fact I think it's idiotic they are evening running this horse in the Juvenile. I absolutely agree that he belongs in an allowance race as prep race or not he's not much horse and likely to be up the track in the Breeders Cup Juvenile.

Considering how little you want horses you like to run, that's where it makes total sense that you would probably have the horse take the winter off and return at Gulfstream, considering that may be the last time we ever see this horse run a good race after seeing Pletcher's freak jobs at Gulfstream in the winter.

[pucknut]

is uncle mo the free square?

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by JerseyJ

I think I am speaking fine English matter of factly. In fact I think it's idiotic they are evening running this horse in the Juvenile. I absolutely agree that he belongs in an allowance race as prep race or not he's not much horse and likely to be up the track in the Breeders Cup Juvenile.

Considering how little you want horses you like to run, that's where it makes total sense that you would probably have the horse take the winter off and return at Gulfstream, considering that may be the last time we ever see this horse run a good race after seeing Pletcher's freak jobs at Gulfstream in the winter.

If the poster meant that the ALW would be a prep, then I agree. I think he's a good horse, but I think he'll be up the track without a prep. 2 months off, last race at 7 furlongs? I can't figure Todd out here, but whatever.

I'm hardly concerned that he won't turn into a good 3 year old as I'm high on him and have been since his first start.

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by Betsy

If the poster meant that the ALW would be a prep, then I agree. I think he's a good horse, but I think he'll be up the track without a prep. 2 months off, last race at 7 furlongs? I can't figure Todd out here, but whatever.

I'm hardly concerned that he won't turn into a good 3 year old as I'm high on him and have been since his first start.

My intention was that I don't think this horse has deserved much of the attention he's gotten so far. If his handlers and pedigree suggest he's a classic distance horse, why not take your time with him, run him in an allowance race this fall, and work him into graded stakes next year around two turns if he develops as much as they all expect him too?

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by lemoncrush

My intention was that I don't think this horse has deserved much of the attention he's gotten so far. If his handlers and pedigree suggest he's a classic distance horse, why not take your time with him, run him in an allowance race this fall, and work him into graded stakes next year around two turns if he develops as much as they all expect him too?

I think he ran very well in the Hopeful so I disagree in terms of whatever attention he's getting. I don't think he's getting a lot - especially within his own barn - but those who like him do see him as a potential Classic horse for next year. I see no reason why ST shouldn't be pointed to the Juvy - though it makes no sense to do it without a prep unless Pletcher (a) really thinks the horse can handle it and will run well and (b) they don't want to kill him as a baby, given his pedigree.

Thanks for clarifying, though!