NE's two Rookie tight ends

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Wait, the Pats are an offensive juggernaut? Does that exclude games where they actually have to play a top NFL defense? I think there are more than a few college football teams that wouldn't have trouble hanging 30 on the Bills and then not have to sweat out the closing minutes against quite possibly the worst team in football this year.

The three teams they've played this year were ranked 1st, 3rd, and 10th in pass defense last year ... and 1st, 10th, and 13th in overall defense.

The Bills are just 5 point dogs against the Jets this week - and the over/under is just 36.

If you think the Bills defense sucks so badly .. go make a killing on the Jets and the over. To be honest, that's a bet I think Meyer Lansky will love.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

They also didn't have to sweat anything out. They had a 38-23 lead with 5 minutes to go. The Bills made it 38-30 ... and the Pats ended the game by taking a knee at the Bills 20.

If it was the 2007 Patriots - instead of running out the clock deep in buffalo territory - they'd have made that sucker 45-30 and covered.

This is Randy's last season. On any team. No one is going to meet his demands and he won't play for less.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

This is Randy's last season. On any team. No one is going to meet his demands and he won't play for less.

Interesting thought... I think he stays with the Pats when it's all said and done.

[slotdirt]

I hope someone took DrugS's betting advice on the over because, as it turns out, Buffalo's defense really does suck.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Yeah, New England's gone over in all 3 games so far this year.

In a way - you could probably see it coming ...

NE's defense lost two supposedly key starters in Bodden and Warren to start the season...

On top of that they have the great Vince Wilfork in the middle to stuff the run in run situations ... and they have a rookie starting at left corner and a revolving door at right corner that includes two guys that can't cover worth a piss .. and another .. Terrence Wheatley, who may be the best of the three, but he's been out with a foot injury each of the first 3 weeks.

Basically, you have a Randy Moss offense.

You have a defense that you don't attack by running up the middle (The Jets were able to gash them on sub runs from passing formations with trips - but you can't just line it up and run straight ahead at will) - you attack the Pats defense by exploiting their dogsh!t cornerbacks....especially the right corner, the one who isn't a rookie.

Basically, the offense can pass at will - the defense can stop the inside run but you can pass on them at will ... and that's why the over is 3-0 in Patriot games so far.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

The three teams they've played this year were ranked 1st, 3rd, and 10th in pass defense last year ... and 1st, 10th, and 13th in overall defense.

The Bills are just 5 point dogs against the Jets this week - and the over/under is just 36.

If you think the Bills defense sucks so badly .. go make a killing on the Jets and the over. To be honest, that's a bet I think Meyer Lansky will love.

They're 5-point dogs because people erroneously think that scoring 30 points on Sunday means Ryan Fitzpatrick is the Bills' savior rather than it being more proof that the Pats' defense can't stop anybody. People will ride with the Pats until the wheels fall off (coming soon). As much as I hate the Dolphins, it's a total joke that the Pats are favored on Monday. Just because people bet the Patriots, that doesn't mean they're good (see: Cowboys).

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

They're 5-point dogs because people erroneously think that scoring 30 points on Sunday means Ryan Fitzpatrick is the Bills' savior rather than it being more proof that the Pats' defense can't stop anybody. People will ride with the Pats until the wheels fall off (coming soon). As much as I hate the Dolphins, it's a total joke that the Pats are favored on Monday. Just because people bet the Patriots, that doesn't mean they're good (see: Cowboys).

Yeah - it's all just that simple.

I hope you bet the Jets on Sunday. Meyer Lansky will love them and so would I if I haven't observed how games like that are truly traps far more often than not.

Go to a sports bar this week and ask 20 people for a score in that game - I'd bet 18 have the Jets covering.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Yeah - it's all just that simple.

I hope you bet the Jets on Sunday. Meyer Lansky will love them and so would I if I haven't observed how games like that are truly traps far more often than not.

Go to a sports bar this week and ask 20 people for a score in that game - I'd bet 18 have the Jets covering.

I don't bet football, but I have a good idea how lines are constructed. The Pats are still being wildly overvalued by people because of their increasingly distant history, just like the Cowboys. Whether or not it's a trap game for the Jets -- it probably is -- is irrelevant to the Pats and your defense of them getting gashed by Harvard's finest.

The Dolphins-Pats game looms large for Drugs' fanatical hope of The Pats super bowl hopes.

2-2 1-2 in the division?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCySTWFcnlM

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

The three teams they've played this year were ranked 1st, 3rd, and 10th in pass defense last year ... and 1st, 10th, and 13th in overall defense.

The Bills are just 5 point dogs against the Jets this week - and the over/under is just 36.

If you think the Bills defense sucks so badly .. go make a killing on the Jets and the over. To be honest, that's a bet I think Meyer Lansky will love.

Buffalo was only a high ranked defense last year, because teams were running the ball knowing full well Buffalo wasn't going to stop them.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

Buffalo was only a high ranked defense last year, because teams were running the ball knowing full well Buffalo wasn't going to stop them.

Sanchez threw 6 INT's against them in a single game when they beat the Jets in the Meadowlands last year.

The Bills went 6-10 last year with an offense that couldn't move the ball worth a sh!t.

[randallscott35]

Time for an avatar change Doug. Getting stale, like your threads.

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Sanchez threw 6 INT's against them in a single game when they beat the Jets in the Meadowlands last year.

The Bills went 6-10 last year with an offense that couldn't move the ball worth a sh!t.

Wow one whoopie-doo of a game. They still gave up 300 yds of rushing on defense that game. If they had a better run-defense, they would had won the game 13-0. It doesn't change the fact that they fought to be the 2nd worst team in the league to stop the run and a another good reason they were 6-10.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Buffalo's defense was rated 27th against the run - the Super Bowl champion Saints defense was rated 29th.

Any way - if the Bills defense sucks so bad - hammer the Jets and over 36 like every square in the world will.

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Buffalo's defense was rated 27th against the run - the Super Bowl champion Saints defense was rated 29th.

Any way - if the Bills defense sucks so bad - hammer the Jets and over 36 like every square in the world will.

Umm New Orleans was 21st and gave up over 30 yds less the Bills did last year.
Buffalo 30th.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

Umm New Orleans was 21st and gave up over 30 yds less the Bills did last year.
Buffalo 30th.

I use the ones A-Team has sold me on as being smart.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef2009

Not the tarded up stats.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Sanchez threw 6 INT's against them in a single game when they beat the Jets in the Meadowlands last year.

The Bills went 6-10 last year with an offense that couldn't move the ball worth a sh!t.

And that exact same offense ran up 30 on the Pats' defense.