Good line by Christine O'Donnell

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by DerbyCat

A majority of people lack willpower as evidenced by the obesity rate, the rate of personal debt in this country, and a wide variety of other personal ills that affect people today. On some level, a great many people need the government to look out for some aspect of their lives. Would be nice if it wasn't that way, but sadly it is.

Freedom always carries that sort of risk, and I wouldn't have it any other way. Better that the decisions are mine instead of someone else's, especially regarding the self-proclaimed elites.

We are not children. If people "need" someone to run their lives, they can hire people for that purpose (financial advisors and nutritionists for example). Don't make that binding on the rest of us who are handling freedom just fine.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Freedom always carries that sort of risk, and I wouldn't have it any other way. Better that the decisions are mine instead of someone else's, especially regarding the self-proclaimed elites.

We are not children. If people "need" someone to run their lives, they can hire people for that purpose (financial advisors and nutritionists for example). Don't make that binding on the rest of us who are handling freedom just fine.

To me that statement duplicates, "Keep your government hands off my Medicare"?

Perhaps people should reflect on the myriad of ways our "interfering" government has brought us to the place where we have that "handling freedom just fine" ability to go about our daily business and live our lives as we know it, mistakenly thinking we don't interact with or benefit directly from our government on a daily basis.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Riot

To me that statement duplicates, "Keep your government hands off my Medicare"?

Perhaps people should reflect on the myriad of ways our "interfering" government has brought us to the place where we have that "handling freedom just fine" ability to go about our daily business and live our lives as we know it, mistakenly thinking we don't interact with or benefit directly from our government on a daily basis.

"Your Medicare" isn't yours if it uses my money.

Since government taxes the people, and picks and chooses whom to tax more or less, and whom to give benefits to, and loses much of that capital in the process before distributing it, the net result is that your average citizen loses more to the government than he or she ever gains.

Look at Social Security for an example. Most people will never even get back the principal of what they had stolen from them over their working careers, let alone any compounded interest.

Social Security is a loser. You'd never consider it as an investment. It sucks. Yet you are forced to "participate". Even when it will assuredly return less than principal in the best case, and be bankrupt in the worst case.

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Originally Posted by joeydb

"Your Medicare" isn't yours if it uses my money

That's not at all what I was talking about

You think "you're handling freedom just fine" without interference from the government? That you're independent of government benefit? That's an illusion you have, enabled by the protections afforded you from the very government you are dissing. In the first six hours of your day, today, I'll bet you've benefited from "government intervention and supervision" in a myriad of ways you are apparently obvious to.

In other words, you are nowhere near as far off the "government benefits grid" as you imagine yourself to be.