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Old 09-22-2010, 04:42 PM
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Well, my issue with the takeout debate, (as it is), is that it's a "Johnny One Note" hot button. Would careful management and a coherent approach to takeout benefit handle overall by promoting churn? Yes. Is pell mell takeout reduction a panacea to pari-mutuel handle? No. It isn't.

By economic standards, there is a threshold that makes ideal sense in the takeout discussion which benefits all sides. However, the foil hat 'lower takeout' mantra chanters have no idea what it is, have no interest in discussing what it might be, or no actual stake in trying to work with anyone to try and discover it.

If the takeout topic is such a deal maker, why has there been close to no applause for Delaware's very noble and practical exacta expirement?

Where is my foil hat? Let's start with 10% for WPS and better breakage and start from there. That is the same as pro sports betting....Better yet, let's encourage people to go to the track and offer reduced takeout on track...What was the attendance for Saturday at Belmont? 5500....in NYC. Also really you aren't comparing apples to apples when you deal with Saratoga. It is a destination. What about the other 10.5 months of the year? Takeout is hardly a canard and someone with a radio show who should be pro bettor should know that, especially with guys like Sanan who say precisely what I'm saying.
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Old 09-22-2010, 04:48 PM
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Where is my foil hat? Let's start with 10% for WPS and better breakage and start from there. That is the same as pro sports betting....Better yet, let's encourage people to go to the track and offer reduced takeout on track...What was the attendance for Saturday at Belmont? 5500....in NYC. Also really you aren't comparing apples to apples when you deal with Saratoga. It is a destination. What about the other 10.5 months of the year? Takeout is hardly a canard and someone with a radio show who should be pro bettor should know that, especially with guys like Sanan who say precisely what I'm saying.
That would involve aggressive marketing and quite frankly there aren't enough bold entrepreneurs to take that risk in an industry that has little faith in itself to bring people to the track.
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Old 09-22-2010, 08:00 PM
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All we need now is a "u slurp my large ass" out of Byk and this thread will be complete
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Old 09-22-2010, 08:22 PM
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Where is my foil hat? Let's start with 10% for WPS and better breakage and start from there. That is the same as pro sports betting....Better yet, let's encourage people to go to the track and offer reduced takeout on track...What was the attendance for Saturday at Belmont? 5500....in NYC. Also really you aren't comparing apples to apples when you deal with Saratoga. It is a destination. What about the other 10.5 months of the year? Takeout is hardly a canard and someone with a radio show who should be pro bettor should know that, especially with guys like Sanan who say precisely what I'm saying.
Actually, Sanan has little regard for the one trick pony takeout drum-beaters which only serves to tell me you haven't listened too carefully to his weekly visits on ATR.

It's a phony issue. While it is a part of the overall equation, it's far from the lynchpin. Few are more pro-bettor than me. I just have a wider appreciation for all the stakeholding parties involved in this than those that think magically slashing takeout will be some miracle elixer.
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