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Old 09-21-2010, 09:09 AM
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What is sad is horses ducking other ones. In the past months we have heard owners talk about how they got superstars and how they can't wait to face to big boys. Instead what happens?

Ken Ramsey says the day before the Travers draw,Pleasant Prince will skip the Travers because "He would not come out of the barn in the rain". He will instead go to the Smarty Jones and onto the PA Derby. Yes the Smarty Jones Stakes which gave the winner a free pass to the PA Derby. Well that winner skipped the race to and why? Cause he has no chance.

IEAH says they aquire Trickmeister for the Travers-he is a super horse and gonna wire the field. Instead he ducks the race and destroys nobodys. 5 mins later he is set to going to the PA Derby,however Monday morning First Dude announces is going to the PA Derby and Trickmeister comes down with a injury.

Moral of the story is RUN the damn horse!!!!!!! All of these owners would rather enter their horse in a race that they would be the 4/5 fave in a 25k allowance race instead of enter their horse in a 1 million dollar race where it would be at 10/1.
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Old 09-21-2010, 09:36 AM
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shocked that some of the big names don't take some swings with their second stringers here..... i mean, just a placing in a G1 is good for breeding, not really much to lose here

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Old 09-21-2010, 10:07 AM
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shocked that some of the big names don't take some swings with their second stringers here..... i mean, just a placing in a G1 is good for breeding, not really much to lose here

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It's not a Grade 1.
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Old 09-21-2010, 10:07 AM
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IEAH says they aquire Trickmeister for the Travers-he is a super horse and gonna wire the field. Instead he ducks the race and destroys nobodys. 5 mins later he is set to going to the PA Derby,however Monday morning First Dude announces is going to the PA Derby and Trickmeister comes down with a injury.
I'm sorry....you are suggesting Dutrow is ducking First Dude?
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Old 09-21-2010, 10:31 AM
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I'm sorry....you are suggesting Dutrow is ducking First Dude?
He is ducking someone. Just saying IEAH first quote about him was- Going to the Travers,he will wire the field and beat First Dude to the lead. Which Romans said First Dude does not need the lead. Trickmeister instead takes on a HARD (HAHA) Allowance race. IEAH then comes out and says off the the PA Derby,5 mins after that race. Monday comes around and Romans saying First Dude to the PA Derby which prompts "Trickmeister had a bad workout this morning and he will NOT be entered in the PA Derby"

So conclusion would be if First Dude is going to a race then Trickmeister won't be.
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Old 09-21-2010, 10:41 AM
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I remember a great time of blissful ignorance before the internet. Who knew then what kind of nonsense people actually believed.
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Old 09-21-2010, 10:47 AM
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He is ducking someone. Just saying IEAH first quote about him was- Going to the Travers,he will wire the field and beat First Dude to the lead. Which Romans said First Dude does not need the lead. Trickmeister instead takes on a HARD (HAHA) Allowance race. IEAH then comes out and says off the the PA Derby,5 mins after that race. Monday comes around and Romans saying First Dude to the PA Derby which prompts "Trickmeister had a bad workout this morning and he will NOT be entered in the PA Derby"

So conclusion would be if First Dude is going to a race then Trickmeister won't be.

FD is a decent at best horse that many people on this website have chased badly. He has never won anything significant and like I said 5 months ago he likely never will. Yes he has faced the best, sure... He has not won anything. I have never liked him and dont like him much in this spot. Last I read he was going to turf, seems like they are reaching a bit.
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Old 09-21-2010, 10:49 AM
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FD is a decent at best horse that many people on this website have chased badly. He has never won anything significant and like I said 5 months ago he likely never will. Yes he has faced the best, sure... He has not won anything. I have never liked him and dont like him much in this spot. Last I read he was going to turf, seems like they are reaching a bit.
FD runs his race everytime. His race just isn't that good.
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Old 09-21-2010, 10:55 AM
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First Dude is no Admiral Alex....that's for sure.
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Old 09-21-2010, 11:03 AM
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First Dude is no Admiral Alex....that's for sure.
Admiral Alex is going to roll in the Jamaica. Just ask his trainer.

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Old 09-21-2010, 03:03 PM
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First Dude is no Admiral Alex....that's for sure.
Keep this up forever, because I said no one should say he has no chance. Remember thats all I really said. You are one of the people who has touted First Dude multiple times. That horse has been a toss on the win end for me every time he has ran since March
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Old 09-21-2010, 03:02 PM
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FD runs his race everytime. His race just isn't that good.
Like I said, decent at best. I think we said the same thing, your just being nicer about it.
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Old 09-21-2010, 11:00 AM
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He is ducking someone. Just saying IEAH first quote about him was- Going to the Travers,he will wire the field and beat First Dude to the lead. Which Romans said First Dude does not need the lead. Trickmeister instead takes on a HARD (HAHA) Allowance race. IEAH then comes out and says off the the PA Derby,5 mins after that race. Monday comes around and Romans saying First Dude to the PA Derby which prompts "Trickmeister had a bad workout this morning and he will NOT be entered in the PA Derby"

So conclusion would be if First Dude is going to a race then Trickmeister won't be.
I can't stand IEAH either but c'mon, there is a lot of money out there...you aren't not going to enter b/c of First Dude.
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