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Old 09-19-2010, 10:40 PM
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I'll ignore this and continue to try to post winners in this thread.
Of course you'll ignore it. You certainly can't explain it. Now if you'll excuse me I have to finish writing my letter to Santa Claus.
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Old 09-19-2010, 10:45 PM
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Of course you'll ignore it. You certainly can't explain it. Now if you'll excuse me I have to finish writing my letter to Santa Claus.
Do you seriously believe that everything that happens in the NFL is on the level? Especially given that an average of $250 million+ per game is bet worldwide? I'm not saying that it was a "for sure" thing, but a timely pass interference call or a holding call can go a LONG way in a game where everything else is fairly equal. The Jets handled them just fine, but if they needed an assist there would have been one.
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Old 09-19-2010, 10:50 PM
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Do you seriously believe that everything that happens in the NFL is on the level? Especially given that an average of $250 million+ per game is bet worldwide? I'm not saying that it was a "for sure" thing, but a timely pass interference call or a holding call can go a LONG way in a game where everything else is fairly equal. The Jets handled them just fine, but if they needed an assist there would have been one.
Don't backtrack. You insinuated the second half was fixed. You said the outcome was predetermined. There were no "timely pass interference calls" and they didn't need or get any assists from the refs.

They totally outplayed the Pats on both sides of the ball. End of story.
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Old 09-19-2010, 10:56 PM
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Don't backtrack. You insinuated the second half was fixed. You said the outcome was predetermined. There were no "timely pass interference calls" and they didn't need or get any assists from the refs.

They totally outplayed the Pats on both sides of the ball. End of story.
Backtrack?!? Jesus Christ you are sensitive, I never said anything bad about the phuckin Jets, before or now! I JUST SAID THEY OUTPLAYED THEM!!! GTFO! I could give a f*ck who won that game, honestly! My team, and I use that term loosely, is horrible, so from a fan's perspective I don't care about the NFL this year!
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Old 09-19-2010, 10:58 PM
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Backtrack?!? Jesus Christ you are sensitive, I never said anything bad about the phuckin Jets, before or now! I JUST SAID THEY OUTPLAYED THEM!!! GTFO! I could give a f*ck who won that game, honestly! My team, and I use that term loosely, is horrible, so from a fan's perspective I don't care about the NFL this year!
I'm a Titans fan. Be sure to watch the NFL Replay.
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Old 09-20-2010, 10:53 PM
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Old 09-20-2010, 10:57 PM
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Disgusting. If there were Pawn Star re runs I would have been able to miss the last 9 minutes.
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Old 09-20-2010, 10:59 PM
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What's the rule that runs 10 seconds off the clock if the offense commits a foul that stops the clock and why isn't it enforced on the false start with :03 on the clock.

I realize the Saints were not doing that but they could have if they couldn't get lined up in time. Seems like there is another potential hole there....
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Old 09-19-2010, 11:08 PM
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Backtrack?!? Jesus Christ you are sensitive, I never said anything bad about the phuckin Jets, before or now! I JUST SAID THEY OUTPLAYED THEM!!! GTFO! I could give a f*ck who won that game, honestly! My team, and I use that term loosely, is horrible, so from a fan's perspective I don't care about the NFL this year!
This is the kind of response I expected. This has nothing to do with the Jets. It's about what you said. You insinuated the game was fixed. I'm not sure how anyone not wearing a straight jacket could have come to that conclusion.

Is the NFL always on the up and up? Maybe, maybe not. I can see both sides of the arguement and any time that much money is involved there is a greater risk for some funny business. But that game was a legit beatdown. On both sides of the line.
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Old 09-19-2010, 11:27 PM
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This is the kind of response I expected. This has nothing to do with the Jets. It's about what you said. You insinuated the game was fixed. I'm not sure how anyone not wearing a straight jacket could have come to that conclusion.

Is the NFL always on the up and up? Maybe, maybe not. I can see both sides of the arguement and any time that much money is involved there is a greater risk for some funny business. But that game was a legit beatdown. On both sides of the line.
Well then you're reading what I initially wrote too literally. The Jets didn't need any help in the second half. They took care of it on their own quite nicely, even with their best player going down. But if they did, you damn well better believe the flags would have been flying in their favor. The post was an extension on a conversation Coach and I and others had last week.

IMO Most NFL games are on the up and up. I try to bet the low profile games like STL-OAK or ARI-ATL this week, or totals. Less TV's = less likelihood of the bookies getting one sided = better chance to have an outcome decided fairly. FYI the Jets-Pats line moved 4 points which is almost unheard of in the NFL. On top of that it was far and away the highest profile game on the day involving a team from the #1 market.

For what it's worth I KNEW the Jets were the right side today and didn't have the balls to bet them.
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Old 09-20-2010, 12:04 AM
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Coach, next Sunday's early line is Dolphins -1.5, what do you think? Personally I'm surprised the Jimmy Buffetts aren't laying 3-4.
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Old 09-20-2010, 01:29 AM
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FYI the Jets-Pats line moved 4 points which is almost unheard of in the NFL. On top of that it was far and away the highest profile game on the day involving a team from the #1 market.
The line moved 2 points. The Pats opened -1 and closed -3.
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Old 09-20-2010, 12:39 PM
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Where's Chuck? Every time I suggest that NBA refs influence games, he's in my ass two seconds later, undermining me and dumping on my theories. But Phil's on his 'NFL fixes games through its refs' horse for several pages and Chuck is nowhere to be found.
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Old 09-20-2010, 12:48 PM
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Where's Chuck? Every time I suggest that NBA refs influence games, he's in my ass two seconds later, undermining me and dumping on my theories. But Phil's on his 'NFL fixes games through its refs' horse for several pages and Chuck is nowhere to be found.
I'm sure Chuck will find you sometime soon.

Donaghy admitted that the NBA was always in the refs ears about certain teams/players. Granted the guy is a criminal, but I believed what he had to say.
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Old 09-20-2010, 02:28 PM
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RockTard....r u barred from any of the rooms?
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Old 09-20-2010, 02:38 PM
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Since RockTard is an ineligible receiver, does anyone know if the nincompoop as appeared in the Padlock today?
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Old 09-20-2010, 02:44 PM
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Jesus...it's a conspiracy.
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Old 09-20-2010, 02:43 PM
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A few facts. I have never once been banned anywhere. You've said this before and I asked you to prove it. You can't because you have totally made it up. TVG board? Cali board? ESPN board? I've never posted there EVER. Multiple names? When and where. Prove your accusations.

You also said I threatened you and your kids. I said prove it, because no such thing ever happened. Again, you can't because you totally made it up.

You on the other hand have been banned here at least 5 times. That's pretty impressive because I think most would admit Steve is about as relaxed as it gets. You were also banned at PA. I'm sure there have been others, but I'm sure everyone gets the point.

So in terms of being banned the score is RockTardLiar-6 Me-0.

It's the only thing you'll ever be better than me at. Getting kicked out of places.
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