Bernardini IS

Cajungator26 · #1 10-10-2006, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

He made a black or white statement. There is a grey area and that's where Bernardini lives for right now.

If Invasor doesn't run in the BCC it will arguably be one of the weakest classic fields yet. Outside of Lava Man and Bernardini, there are nothing but a bunch of bridesmaids.

Horse racing is just like any other sport. Teams and individuals are always compared to past champions and there are certain accomplishments that have to be met before the masses concede their greatness.

And really all of the doubters are speaking up because the Bernardini goo gooism is getting ridiculous. He's a really good horse but there are many questions going into the big race that have yet to be answered.

I agree with all of that, but you have to admit that some people just aren't happy any way you look at it. Personally, I think we have been blessed with a few of the most talented 3 year olds I've seen. Whether or not they've been facing subpar fields... I just don't know. I am of the same opinion of Bernardini as you... I want to see more. The reality is though... IF he beats everyone in the BCC, will he be called a fraud because the quality of the field isn't considered "great?" I think that's what Travis Stone was saying... Bern can't win for winning.

#2 10-10-2006, 09:47 AM

Hey Paisjpg,

DO NOT mess with my posts. You are so far over your head it's embarassing.

blackthroatedwind · #3 10-10-2006, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Porter

Hey Pasijig,

DO NOT play with my posts. You are so far over your head it's embarassing.

The internet tough guy has spoken.

#4 10-10-2006, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Porter

Hey Paisjpg,

DO NOT mess with my posts. You are so far over your head it's embarassing.

Haha. Ohhhhh scary.

paisjpq · #5 10-10-2006, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Porter

Hey Pasijig,

DO NOT play with my posts. You are so far over your head it's embarassing.

dixie...I will edit any post--yours or otherwise that I feel crosses a line of proper personal etiquette. If you do not like that then I would be happy to show you the door. You can rest assured that I make these edits with steve's blessing so whining to him will not work.
If you wanted to disagree with travis stone's comment that is one thing...calling his words those of an imbecile are quite another and go against the atmosphere that steve is trying to foster here.

#6 10-10-2006, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq

dixie...I will edit any post--yours or otherwise that I feel crosses a line of proper personal etiquette. If you do not like that then I would be happy to show you the door. You can rest assured that I make these edits with steve's blessing so whining to him will not work.
If you wanted to disagree with travis stone's comment that is one thing...calling his words those of an imbecile are quite another and go against the atmosphere that steve is trying to foster here.

I do not know who you are and I could care less. You want Steve's bleesings that's fine with me.

I've grown to LIKE the guy and unless I'm a bad judge of people he can stand up for himself.

Whomever Travis Stone is the comments I pointed out were LAME.

As far as you go, GET LOST................

randallscott35 · #7 10-10-2006, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Porter

I do not know who you are and I could care less. You want Steve's bleesings that's fine with me.

I've grown to LIKE the guy and unless I'm a bad judge of people he can stand up for himself.

Whomever Travis Stone is the comments I pointed out were LAME.

As far as you go, GET LOST................

Cat Fight!!!!...Dixie, pais is the down and dirty type. She might be tough to take. I'll make the line -350 on Pais.

#8 10-10-2006, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Cat Fight!!!!...Dixie, pais is the down and dirty type. She might be tough to take. I'll make the line -350 on Pais.

Dixie gets the special line. He's got it at -160 Pais. He's connected like that.

paisjpq · #9 10-10-2006, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Cat Fight!!!!...Dixie, pais is the down and dirty type. She might be tough to take. I'll make the line -350 on Pais.

thanks rand...but I don't fight old men, I was taught to respect my elders...that is, as long as they continue to deserve respect.

randallscott35 · #10 10-10-2006, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq

thanks rand...but I don't fight old men, I was taught to respect my elders...that is, as long as they continue to deserve respect.

Actually I thought Dixie was a girl on here, tough to know these things....

slotdirt · #11 10-10-2006, 10:26 AM

When did this paisjpq person become a moderator?

Kasept · #12 10-10-2006, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

When did this paisjpq person become a moderator?

"Paisjpq" has been moderating for the past month and has been a tremendous help maintaining order here. She works in the industry; has total credibility in her knowledge of horses and the game and my full confidence as judge of what we are all trying to accomplish here as a community.

Having just read what went on here, I fully support her decision to give Dixie a week on the bench.. I appreciate everyone's zeal in posting their thoughts and opinions, but as stated numerous times previously, will NOT allow personal attacks and name-calling to rule the day around here...

Steve

paisjpq · #13 10-10-2006, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Porter

I do not know who you are and I could care less. You want Steve's bleesings that's fine with me.

I've grown to LIKE the guy and unless I'm a bad judge of people he can stand up for himself.

Whomever Travis Stone is the comments I pointed out were LAME.

As far as you go, GET LOST................

if you want to continue to enjoy Steve's hospitality then you should let this go and accept that I have more power here than you.

#14 10-10-2006, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq

if you want to continue to enjoy Steve's hospitality then you should let this go and accept that I have more power here than you.

I assume you know what you "can do with your POWER".

As far as Steve goes, whatever he wants to do, it's his BALL.

Once again, GET LOST................

paisjpq · #15 10-10-2006, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Porter

I assume you know what you "can do with your POWER".

As far as Steve goes, whatever he wants to do, it's his BALL.

Once again, GET LOST................

I do know what I can do with my "power" have fun taking some time off

#16 10-10-2006, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I agree with all of that, but you have to admit that some people just aren't happy any way you look at it. Personally, I think we have been blessed with a few of the most talented 3 year olds I've seen. Whether or not they've been facing subpar fields... I just don't know. I am of the same opinion of Bernardini as you... I want to see more. The reality is though... IF he beats everyone in the BCC, will he be called a fraud because the quality of the field isn't considered "great?" I think that's what Travis Stone was saying... Bern can't win for winning.

One of the reasons why horse racing fans aren't happy is due to the small fields and the constant ducking and dodging the connections due to avoid real competition. The JCGC was a shining example of what's wrong with the sport. A 3yr old, not an accomplished older horse, scares away everyone but Aidan O'Brien and Nick Zito. One of the most prestigious races in North America is reduced to essentially a match race between a speed and fader and the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Now tell me, why should the racing fan be happy with a race like that?

P.S. And Bernardini's connections aren't innocent of this either. I don't care what anyone says. He wasn't ready for the Derby but magically two weeks later he's ready? Yeah right.

Cajungator26 · #17 10-10-2006, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

One of the reasons why horse racing fans aren't happy is due to the small fields and the constant ducking and dodging the connections due to avoid real competition. The JCGC was a shining example of what's wrong with the sport. A 3yr old, not an accomplished older horse, scares away everyone but Aidan O'Brien and Nick Zito. One of the most prestigious races in North America is reduced to essentially a match race between a speed and fader and the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Now tell me, why should the racing fan be happy with a race like that?

A racing fan SHOULDN'T be happy with a race like that, but the question is... IF he wins the BCC against another ho-hum field, will he be called a fraud?

#18 10-10-2006, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

A racing fan SHOULDN'T be happy with a race like that, but the question is... IF he wins the BCC against another ho-hum field, will he be called a fraud?

Nobody is calling him a fraud. He's a really good horse and he'll have to be considered great if he wins the race. Will it justify comparing him to the all-time greats? More than likely not, but it will happen unfortunately.

Pointg5 · #19 10-10-2006, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

A racing fan SHOULDN'T be happy with a race like that, but the question is... IF he wins the BCC against another ho-hum field, will he be called a fraud?

Yes, I will think he's a great horse, I just want a bigger field. I do not dislike the horse, but I don't like all of the lavish praise he gets. I would happily proclaim him one of the greats if he wins, even if he guts it out and just gets up, I would be more happy with a finish like that, it would show he has some heart...

Cajungator26 · #20 10-10-2006, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pointg5

Yes, I will think he's a great horse, I just want a bigger field. I do not dislike the horse, but I don't like all of the lavish praise he gets. I would happily proclaim him one of the greats if he wins, even if he guts it out and just gets up, I would be more happy with a finish like that, it would show he has some heart...

Agreed. And that's how I feel too...