Jeter A Jerk?

[MaTH716]

The whole what to do, is about the way Jeter acted like he was hit. You are talking about a guy that is treated like he some sort of holy figure. The guy can't do anything wrong. Hell, I have never even seen him argue with an ump.
But there is nothing wrong with taking the base if the ump gives it to you (really what are you supposed to do?). It's more about the production that Mr. Clean put on like he was drilled with a Nolan Ryan fastball in the nuts. Basically Mr. Rightous who can do nothing wrong pulled a fast one and shocked everyone who thought he was above stuff like that. But then again if you were in the slump that he's been in, you might be throwing yourself at fastballs thrown down the middle of the plate.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

It's more about the production that Mr. Clean put on like he was drilled with a Nolan Ryan fastball in the nuts.

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[Danzig]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

The whole what to do, is about the way Jeter acted like he was hit. You are talking about a guy that is treated like he some sort of holy figure. The guy can't do anything wrong. Hell, I have never even seen him argue with an ump.
But there is nothing wrong with taking the base if the ump gives it to you (really what are you supposed to do?). It's more about the production that Mr. Clean put on like he was drilled with a Nolan Ryan fastball in the nuts. Basically Mr. Rightous who can do nothing wrong pulled a fast one and shocked everyone who thought he was above stuff like that. But then again if you were in the slump that he's been in, you might be throwing yourself at fastballs thrown down the middle of the plate.

that's the thing-the ump didn't just say take your base. jeter put on quite an act. i think that's what has people in an uproar. a dive for sure. it wasn't just an error on the umps part, jeter acted hit, acted hurt-he ought to be ashamed. just think if the yanks had won off of that lie.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

that's the thing-the ump didn't just say take your base. jeter put on quite an act. i think that's what has people in an uproar. a dive for sure. it wasn't just an error on the umps part, jeter acted hit, acted hurt-he ought to be ashamed. just think if the yanks had won off of that lie.

It was an error on the umpires part. Jeter didn't obscure the umps vision and there are 3 other umps on the field that can be consulted with. Not to mention that it sounded like the ball hit wood, not a person. The umps blew it, period. The "people are in an uproar" will soon go back to ignoring baseball unless there is something to hate on. I prefer to call out a guy for cheating when he actually breaks a rule.

We now live in a world where the best basketball player is hated because he has a large ego, one of the top football players is disliked because he does a lot of commercials and now one of the best baseball players is disliked because he tricked an umpire? And this is progress....

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It was an error on the umpires part. Jeter didn't obscure the umps vision and there are 3 other umps on the field that can be consulted with. Not to mention that it sounded like the ball hit wood, not a person. The umps blew it, period. The "people are in an uproar" will soon go back to ignoring baseball unless there is something to hate on. I prefer to call out a guy for cheating when he actually breaks a rule.

We now live in a world where the best basketball player is hated because he has a large ego, one of the top football players is disliked because he does a lot of commercials and now one of the best baseball players is disliked because he tricked an umpire? And this is progress....

I think the people are in an uproar more because of who did it, than the actual act itself. Like I said before, the guy who did it has been a put on a pedestal his whole career for the way he plays the game (almost to a holy level) and now he overacted his way onto first base. If it was anybody else (maybe except A-Rod), this would have been a non story that would have been forgotten now. But since it was a guy who has been a boyscout his whole career, the thing has been blown way out of proportion.
Bottom line, it was just another blown/bad call but the umps.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Bottom line, it was just another blown/bad call but the umps.

Listen to that sound. If they couldn't get that right, then that's it. Time to have each manager get a certain limited number of reviews each game. Let them get away with butchering balls n' strikes. Everything else should be reviewable. Whether a pitch hit the bat (or the batter) should be reviewable. Whether somebody went around (or not) can be kept botch-friendly (for the purists.)

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Listen to that sound. If they couldn't get that right, then that's it. Time to have each manager get a certain limited number of reviews each game. Let them get away with butchering balls n' strikes. Everything else should be reviewable. Whether a pitch hit the bat (or the batter) should be reviewable. Whether somebody went around (or not) can be kept botch-friendly (for the purists.)

I really believe that this isn't the usual scenario. They got this call wrong based on the Oscar winning performance of Captain America. They must have figured if he's riving in pain, then he must have got hit. Anybody else in the league probably wouldn't have gotten the benifit of the doubt that Jeter did.
But the bottom line is that it was another botched call by the umpires. You would think another form of replay is going to be introduced somewhere in the near future.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It was an error on the umpires part. Jeter didn't obscure the umps vision and there are 3 other umps on the field that can be consulted with. Not to mention that it sounded like the ball hit wood, not a person. The umps blew it, period. The "people are in an uproar" will soon go back to ignoring baseball unless there is something to hate on. I prefer to call out a guy for cheating when he actually breaks a rule.

We now live in a world where the best basketball player is hated because he has a large ego, one of the top football players is disliked because he does a lot of commercials and now one of the best baseball players is disliked because he tricked an umpire? And this is progress....

not sure what ball player you're talking about-if it's ocho, i defend him all the time. i think he has talent and backs it up.
sorry, i think if the ump called it wrong, you'd be right about it, and i wouldn't be fussing about it. but the b movie acting by jeter was over the top.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Danzig

not sure what ball player you're talking about-if it's ocho, i defend him all the time. i think he has talent and backs it up.
sorry, i think if the ump called it wrong, you'd be right about it, and i wouldn't be fussing about it. but the b movie acting by jeter was over the top.

Payton Manning, I have never seen Ochocinco do a commercial.

If you can trick an umpire into giving you a base at that point of a game under those circumstances I think any player doing it would be doing the right thing. Like he said it is his job to get on base which he did. How the ump didnt hear the ball hit the bat or take into consideration how far the ball traveled after supposedly hitting Jeter is beyond me. There are three other umps who are supposed to be watching the play and they all missed it too. This moral bs that Scus is preaching is a load of crap. Jeter is trying to win games, he gets paid a lot of money to do so. He didn't break or even bend a rule. No one got hurt, really.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Payton Manning, I have never seen Ochocinco do a commercial.

If you can trick an umpire into giving you a base at that point of a game under those circumstances I think any player doing it would be doing the right thing. Like he said it is his job to get on base which he did. How the ump didnt hear the ball hit the bat or take into consideration how far the ball traveled after supposedly hitting Jeter is beyond me. There are three other umps who are supposed to be watching the play and they all missed it too. This moral bs that Scus is preaching is a load of crap. Jeter is trying to win games, he gets paid a lot of money to do so. He didn't break or even bend a rule. No one got hurt, really.

you must love soccer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ioyt2zzm530

[Danzig]

i heard cal ripkens take on this....he said he felt the excessive acting on jeter's part was ridiculous. that it was an interesting thing to discuss.