Don't burn the Quran, but beheadings are OK...

[Riot]

Sorry, Scuds. Your freak show leader is just another thieving, lying loser of a snake-oil salesman.

There are no "witnesses" to "a lie" that have stepped forward. Your guy collapsed completely today, put his tail between his legs and walked away.

Before he was the internationally condemned "Burn a Koran Day" pastor, drawing a crush of media to sleepy Gainesville, Florida; Terry Jones was just your average, amateur cult leader.

The 58-year-old former hotel manager, a self-styled "Dr." who in 2002 was fined by the government of Germany for using the title without qualifications, founded the 800 -1,000-member Christian Community of Cologne with his second wife Sylvia in 1981.

The couple was ejected from the church in 2008 amid allegations of radical teachings and tyrannical, even abusive behavior; allegedly forcing congregants to work at charitable "Lisa Jones Houses," (named after Jones' deceased first wife); strident demands for "tithes" and claims that he and his wife were appointed by God. (The Cologne church has joined in the international condemnation of Jones's book-burning plan.)

Jones emerged from the controversial, Gainesville-based Maranatha Campus Ministries movement, for years the target of cult watchers before it was disbanded in 1989. When Terry and Sylvia returned to the U.S. and took over the Maranatha-affiliated Dove World Outreach Center (bringing the Lisa Jones House concept with them, this time as a food pantry,) fresh controversies arose.

The church lost part of its tax-exempt status this year for running a for-profit vintage furniture business using the unpaid labor of church members.

In March, the watchdog group Americans United for Separation of Church and State filed an IRS complaint after Jones planted a "No Homo Mayor" sign on church property, opposing openly gay mayoral candidate Craig Lowe (Lowe was elected in April.)

Former members, including Jones' daughter Emma, broke with the church, describing a restrictive atmosphere where contact with non-members was forbidden, total obedience to the Jones's was required and the finances generated by the furniture business were shielded from the congregation. (The 20-acre campus is currently for sale.)

[Riot]

(btw, spoken extemporaneously in answer to a question, without teleprompter or notes)

We are not at war against Islam.

We are at war against terrorist organizations that have distorted Islam or falsely used the banner of Islam to engage in their destructive acts. And we've got to be clear about that.

We've got to be clear about that because, if we're going to deal with the problems that Ed Henry was talking about, if we're going to successfully reduce the terror threat, then we need all the allies we can get. The folks who are most interested in a war between the United States or the West and Islam are al Qaeda. That's what they've been banking on.

And fortunately, the overwhelming majority of Muslims around the world are peace-loving, are interested in the same things that you and I are interested in: how do I make sure I can get a good job, how can I make sure that my kids get a decent education, how can I make sure I'm safe, how can I improve my lot in life. And so they have rejected this violent ideology for the most part, overwhelmingly.

And so from a national security interest, we want to be clear about who the enemy is here. It's a handful, a tiny minority of people who are engaging in horrific acts -- and have killed Muslims more than anybody else.

The other reason it's important for us to remember that is because we've got millions of Muslim-Americans, our fellow citizens, in this country. They're going to school with our kids. They're our neighbors. They're our friends. They're our coworkers. And, you know, when we start acting as if their religion is somehow offensive, what are we saying to them?

I've got Muslims who are fighting in Afghanistan, in the uniform of the United States armed services. They're out there putting their lives on the line for us. And we've got to make sure that we are crystal clear for our sakes and their sakes: They are Americans. And we honor their service.

And part of honoring their service is making sure that they understand that we don't differentiate between "them" and "us." It's just "us."

And that is a principle that I think is going to be very important for us to sustain. And I think tomorrow is an excellent time for us to reflect on that.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

LOL...You're a desperate witch. Everyone knows THAT IMAM'S LYING. As usual, you ignore the obvious. I noticed they had a showing of Muslims out there at the church today.

"When our Muslim brothers are under attack, what do we do? Fight back!" came the chant.

Notice how Muslims have burnt stuff all week, and no Korans have even been burnt yet. These people, and their helpers, are pathetic. They're like spoiled children who think their feelings are 10x as important as anyone else's. They aren't. People just lay down for them (a lot.)

[Riot]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

LOL...You're a desperate witch.

And you're a sad, angry bigot.

So it goes.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Riot

And you're a sad, angry bigot.

So it goes.

Who seems to have no problem with Hinduism, or Buddhism. Ain't bigotry to protect yourself from the followers of a known butcher (that terrorized people to get them to join his group, and killed them if they tried to leave.) Your way leads to what? Us being paranoid about what they'll do in retribution for something? .....Loser...All week they've threatened someone who had planned a legal act. They started their violence before he even burned anything. This religion was born by way of terrorism, and intimidation. Our president is running around scared of these thugs. It's pathetic. I'll give the Conservatives that much.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Who seems to have no problem with Hinduism, or Buddhism. Ain't bigotry to protect yourself from the followers of a known butcher (that terrorized people to get them to join his group, and killed them if they tried to leave.) Your way leads to what? Us being paranoid about what they'll do in retribution for something? .....Loser...All week they've threatened someone who had planned a legal act. They started their violence before he even burned anything. This religion was born by way of terrorism, and intimidation. Our president is running around scared of these thugs. It's pathetic. I'll give the Conservatives that much.

should we allow muslims to serve in the military? an intelligence agency? the state department?

assuming they aren't trustworthy enough to have any kind of security clearance, would being a muslim disqualify someone from providing translating services to any of those agencies?

how do you see your war on islam playing out in the long run? better or worse without the cooperation of moderate muslims?

you, terry jones, and newt gingrich play into the narrative extremists want to tell about the west.

us vs. extremists is a much easier fight than us vs. islam.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

should we allow muslims to serve in the military? an intelligence agency? the state department?

assuming they aren't trustworthy enough to have any kind of security clearance, would being a muslim disqualify someone from providing translating services to any of those agencies?

Notice how you don't need to ask this about Christians, Hindus, Buddhists?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

should we allow muslims to serve in the military? an intelligence agency? the state department?

assuming they aren't trustworthy enough to have any kind of security clearance, would being a muslim disqualify someone from providing translating services to any of those agencies?

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com...s-faith-video/


Read what the American Muslim said: “I cannot involve myself in an army that wages war against Muslims.”


He lies repeatedly in that conversation. He constantly keeps saying it's a peaceful religion blah blah blah. Fact is the liar wouldn't have any problem killing non-Muslims. He freaked out about having to kill fellow Muslims. This is exactly opposite of what Riot, Zig etc. have told us. They've told us they're good Americans. Come to find out they value the lives of Muslims more than other people....DUH, FOLKS....DUH. They say a lot of warm stuff, but (when tested on it) their allegiance to fellow Muslims is more important than their oath to the country. God, I didn't have to answer your question. I let this American Muslim do it with his actions. They say a lot. Fact is that they think they can be good Americans, but their allegiance is to other Muslims (and not just American Muslims.) The question you asked has been answered by these people. You've just ignored it. They aren't terrorists, but they are refusing to be part of killing terrorists that are Muslim. You gunna claim the small percentage crap? That button is so used that the paint has come off.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11260471

Someone should tell the leaders of these 2 Muslim Countries to mind their own fkn business. We don't have to submit to you. FK off! You make non-Muslims refrain from eating during the day (during Ramadan.) We aren't making Muslims follow another religion's requirements. Someone wanted to burn some books. It's none of your damn business. It's our business. You hypocrites have a lot of nerve, but that's not surprising.