8/28 (DMR) Pacific Classic S. (G1)

[CSC]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

How many of those Grade 1 wins this year have been on real dirt?

Probably none, but what does this have to do with the field that lined up in the 09 Classic?

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by CSC

Probably none, but what does this have to do with the field that lined up in the 09 Classic?

The Breeders Cup Classic is one of the most important dirt races in North America. It is a shame if the horses who ran in it cannot compete at the highest levels on real dirt.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

The Breeders Cup Classic is one of the most important dirt races in North America. It is a shame if the horses who ran in it cannot compete at the highest levels on real dirt.

But aren't half the Major tracks in NA on synth and half on dirt? You can say the same thing this year at CD. Half the horses that should be at CD will not be there or won't be as effective. Does that diminish this year's Classic because of this?

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by CSC

But aren't half the Major tracks in NA on synth and half on dirt? You can say the same thing this year at CD. Half the horses that should be at CD will not be there or won't be as effective. Does that diminish this year's Classic because of this?

You can't be serious.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

You can't be serious.

What's not serious about this? Or is this a dirt-centric bias working here. Like it or not, racing today is a combination of dirt and synthetics. I have accepted it, you may tell me it is an unfair surface, but seeing a sprinter stretch out on dirt on a speed favoring surface and running like an energizer bunny, is this fair also? Is this a superior/better surface?

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by CSC

What's not serious about this? Or is this a dirt-centric bias working here. Like it or not, racing today is a combination of dirt and synthetics. I have accepted it, you may tell me it is an unfair surface, but seeing a sprinter stretch out on dirt on a speed favoring surface and running like an energizer bunny, is this fair also? Is this a superior/better surface?

Racing in America has been dirt-centric for quite some time now. . . like ummm forever. Synthetics are not here to stay and will never compare in any way to a fair dirt track. To put them on equal terms is absurd, but it's to be expected from you.

[Smooth Operator]

Euro runners must really suck since they don't race on "real dirt"...

[CSC]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Racing in America has been dirt-centric for quite some time now. . . like ummm forever. Synthetics are not here to stay and will never compare in any way to a fair dirt track. To put them on equal terms is absurd, but it's to be expected from you.

I think my point was since we have only 3-4 major dirt tracks running at the moment, the form for the classic will come down to these tracks barring the European shippers and we both know they do not race on dirt over there. Just as it was for the Classic in 09. A fact many have stated it was a watered down classic because no dirt horse could succeed over that surface. I have a question, what happens if a synth horse wins the classic? When or if it happens, will the $hit hit the fan here?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by CSC

But aren't half the Major tracks in NA on synth and half on dirt? You can say the same thing this year at CD. Half the horses that should be at CD will not be there or won't be as effective. Does that diminish this year's Classic because of this?

no. new york is all dirt, churchill's dirt, so is fla, louisiana, arkansas, md...

and thankfully, one less cali track will be on the fake stuff soon.