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Old 08-19-2010, 10:47 PM
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Good luck Thomas.
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Old 08-19-2010, 11:30 PM
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Good luck Thomas.
Because I'm a busy boy the next 48 hours

7: 2
8: 1,4
9: 1,3,4,6,7,9,10
10: 2,3,4,7,8,9,10

8: 1,4
9: 1,3,4,6,7,9,10
10: 2,3,4,7,8,9,10

Presses on Paddy

R4 I think Recapturetheglory is a great win bet, should be under the radar with Giant Oak, Gran Estreno, and the one less win Exchanging Kisses.

The rest of the card is better then expected. R1 looks like Catalano and R2 is unbettable.

Last race, I think Tellme All aboutIt could be tough but would use with Catinatree. I also think Surfer Rosa is gonna run a big race. She will be extreme value in the Exacta's and tri's.
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Old 08-19-2010, 11:46 PM
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The more I look the more Paddy just looks like a single.

I'm starting to really like Gypsy's Warning in the Bev D.

I think Debussy is the Euro you want in the Million, but I'll use all three trying to beat Gio, even though I'm a fan.
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Old 08-19-2010, 11:49 PM
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The more I look the more Paddy just looks like a single.

I'm starting to really like Gypsy's Warning in the Bev D.

I think Debussy is the Euro you want in the Million, but I'll use all three trying to beat Gio, even though I'm a fan.
The only person I listen to in regards to handicapping is Brockguy, he tells me this horse can beat him, so I gotta use him, how much will depend on how they bet the horse.
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Old 08-19-2010, 11:50 PM
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The only person I listen to in regards to handicapping is Brockguy, he tells me this horse can beat him, so I gotta use him, how much will depend on how they bet the horse.

I might be calling Saturday for live play by play.
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Old 08-19-2010, 11:52 PM
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The more I look the more Paddy just looks like a single.

I'm starting to really like Gypsy's Warning in the Bev D.

I think Debussy is the Euro you want in the Million, but I'll use all three trying to beat Gio, even though I'm a fan.
I don't see Debussy at all. He looks like he wants some cut in the ground and seems a little off form. Tactically I think Tazeez is the best of the Euros by far and he's the one I'm using.

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Old 08-19-2010, 11:59 PM
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Goodnight Nickey, Thomas and Brian.
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Old 08-20-2010, 05:14 AM
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I don't see Debussy at all. He looks like he wants some cut in the ground and seems a little off form. Tactically I think Tazeez is the best of the Euros by far and he's the one I'm using.

NT
I think it's pretty futile trying to determine which Euros like what type of ground. . . I also don't think he's off form at all. I give him mild excuses for his last two and neither was a terrible try. He'll save ground sitting right behind Tazeez and the 5 and I'd rather have him than a six-year-old gelding. I'm still using all three, though.

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Old 08-20-2010, 07:00 AM
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Interesting that Gerald Butler 'the trainer' not actor, onced worked for D Wayne Lukas. Pathattack has a good draw and has all the looks of a dangerous Euro, I'll use both her and Summit Surge in the Million and Bev D.
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Old 08-20-2010, 08:26 AM
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I don't see Debussy at all. He looks like he wants some cut in the ground and seems a little off form. Tactically I think Tazeez is the best of the Euros by far and he's the one I'm using.

NT
Summit Surge needs fast ground, he doesn't like cut in the ground, with 60% chance of precipitation for Sat, hopefully for him if it does rain it will be during the day of the race. There is a big difference from a course that is soaked with rain overnight and a firm course that is exposed to rain during the day of the races, a yielding course can still produce fast times, this is how I judge if a course is truly soft.
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Old 08-20-2010, 02:27 PM
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I don't see Debussy at all. He looks like he wants some cut in the ground and seems a little off form. Tactically I think Tazeez is the best of the Euros by far and he's the one I'm using.

NT
That's completely how I felt looking at the race on paper, but after seeing the pair of them together in the morning the last two days, I'm not quite as sure as I was before. On paper, I don't see how Debussy gets the job done, but oh my, this guy in the mornings....

One word that describes Debussy since settling into Arlington? Swagger.
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Old 08-20-2010, 02:40 PM
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In for the Aaron Vercruysse long shots tonight on HRTV, they preview the races at 7:30 CST
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Old 08-21-2010, 06:59 AM
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got a little rain overnight, but with rain having moved out for the most part... track will be good, drying out to firm turf as soon as the sun comes out.
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Old 08-21-2010, 08:25 AM
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That's completely how I felt looking at the race on paper, but after seeing the pair of them together in the morning the last two days, I'm not quite as sure as I was before. On paper, I don't see how Debussy gets the job done, but oh my, this guy in the mornings....

One word that describes Debussy since settling into Arlington? Swagger.
I've been sucked in by morning work looks before, but totally agree with NTamm. Very few non-accomplished foreign shippers run their career best race in the Arlington Million.

Summit Surge just ran the best race of his career...will he double up? Debussy does not class up to these and was still beaten by Summit Surge last time. Tazeez fits most - his third in the Prince of Wales's was a monster effort in a great race and he gets back to ten furlongs. He'll be the only Euro on my tickets in the race.
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Old 08-21-2010, 12:22 PM
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1st race in 1:02.04 on yielding-good turf. Not much cut in the ground.
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Old 08-21-2010, 05:24 PM
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I've been sucked in by morning work looks before, but totally agree with NTamm. Very few non-accomplished foreign shippers run their career best race in the Arlington Million.

Summit Surge just ran the best race of his career...will he double up? Debussy does not class up to these and was still beaten by Summit Surge last time. Tazeez fits most - his third in the Prince of Wales's was a monster effort in a great race and he gets back to ten furlongs. He'll be the only Euro on my tickets in the race.
And I'm not betting for...oh, at least two weeks
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One word that describes Debussy since settling into Arlington? Swagger.
Brian, great call!
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Old 08-21-2010, 09:03 PM
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Brian, great call!
Thanks, JW -- wasn't sold on paper, but couldn't count him out after the AM works.
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Old 08-21-2010, 06:08 PM
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I don't see Debussy at all.
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That's the approach I'm taking with Eclair de Lune and really have no idea why everyone is on her so much.
These pretty much sum up my day.

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I think Debussy is the Euro you want in the Million, but I'll use all three trying to beat Gio, even though I'm a fan.
Good call!

NT
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Old 08-21-2010, 06:33 PM
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These pretty much sum up my day.



Good call!

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Thanks. . . Had the win, but Eclaire de Lune killed me too. So did the Lemon Drop Kid not getting up in the GIII.
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