8/21 (AP): International Festival of Racing

Clip-Clop · #1 08-17-2010, 02:59 PM

I really hope Ave is 5-1

hockey2315 · #2 08-17-2010, 03:16 PM

Were these really great races last year? They look semi-bettable, but who really knows w/o PP's.

eajinabi · #3 08-17-2010, 03:29 PM

Eclair De Lune looks very intruiging. Came a game second to Tuscan Evening (RIP) last out and McCanaly was very high on this horse from the start and him shipping out of cali is very rare.

The Indomitable DrugS · #4 08-17-2010, 03:36 PM

I actually think these three races are all pretty interesting races - and atleast two of them should ultimately be good betting races.

RockHardTen1985 · #5 08-17-2010, 03:40 PM

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I actually think these three races are all pretty interesting races - and atleast two of them should ultimately be good betting races.

When I said miserable, I was talking about the quality.

The Indomitable DrugS · #6 08-17-2010, 03:45 PM

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When I said miserable, I was talking about the quality.

I don't know if I'd agree with that either. Especially considering what we've seen in Gr 1's so far this year.

Two of these races have clearly the best American horse within the divison - and there are some interesting Euro's as well.

CSC · #7 08-17-2010, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

I really hope Ave is 5-1

I hope they bet her, though I like Attfield as a trainer, his career record in open grade 1's would make you want to rush to the windows to bet against him.

NTamm1215 · #8 08-17-2010, 03:25 PM

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I hope they bet her, though I like Attfield as a trainer, his career record in open grade 1's would make you want to rush to the windows to bet against him.

So Attfield is 0 for his last 17 in GI races. He also has a positive ROI on the turf over the last five years by a large margin. 98-526 with an ROI of $2.41, that's phenomenal with that kind of sample size.

NT

CSC · #9 08-17-2010, 04:30 PM

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So Attfield is 0 for his last 17 in GI races. He also has a positive ROI on the turf over the last five years by a large margin. 98-526 with an ROI of $2.41, that's phenomenal with that kind of sample size.

NT

Was Alydeed his last grade 1 winner? I remember Talkin Man winning the Wood Memorial but I'm pretty sure it wasn't a grade 1 then. He does well with what he has, no argument there, but his horses almost always seem to be short of grade 1 caliber.

The Indomitable DrugS · #10 08-17-2010, 04:42 PM

Perfect Soul.

Indian Charlie · #11 08-17-2010, 05:40 PM

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I remember Talkin Man winning the Wood Memorial but I'm pretty sure it wasn't a grade 1 then.

The last time the Wood wasn't g1 was when they didn't have gradings for stakes.

parsixfarms · #12 08-17-2010, 08:53 PM

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The last time the Wood wasn't g1 was when they didn't have gradings for stakes.

The Wood was a grade II from 1995-2001, which would include the victory by Talkin Man in 1995.

CSC · #13 08-17-2010, 09:55 PM

His win in the Grade 2 Gotham over Dahoss was even more impressive one race before the Wood, with Smith aboard. No doubt it was one of the reasons why he chose TM over Thunder Gulch. I thought it was prophetic how Lukas referred to him as Walkin Man leading up to that derby. TG was able to back up Lukas' trash talk.

Clip-Clop · #14 08-17-2010, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

So Attfield is 0 for his last 17 in GI races. He also has a positive ROI on the turf over the last five years by a large margin. 98-526 with an ROI of $2.41, that's phenomenal with that kind of sample size.

NT

His numbers in these races are not great, I get that. Just thinking the horse will run well, like Ramon too. I will be betting her, for sure. Not enough to affect the odds though.

CSC · #15 08-17-2010, 05:22 PM

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His numbers in these races are not great, I get that. Just thinking the horse will run well, like Ramon too. I will be betting her, for sure. Not enough to affect the odds though.

In the Dance Smartly she seemed like she was always going to get up but Mekong Melody another Attfield horse held on, the turf course there can be misleading. There is a big misconception that stretch runners have an inordinate advantage on the long stretch. Jambalaya never ran as well on that course as he did at GP and yes Arlington Park. If there is an angle at work for you maybe this is it and she will improve at AP. Still she won't get a nickle from me.

Clip-Clop · #16 08-17-2010, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

So Attfield is 0 for his last 17 in GI races. He also has a positive ROI on the turf over the last five years by a large margin. 98-526 with an ROI of $2.41, that's phenomenal with that kind of sample size.

NT

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In the Dance Smartly she seemed like she was always going to get up but Mekong Melody another Attfield horse held on, the turf course there can be misleading. There is a big misconception that stretch runners have an inordinate advantage on the long stretch. Jambalaya never ran as well on that course as he did at GP and yes Arlington Park. If there is an angle at work for you maybe this is it and she will improve at AP. Still she won't get a nickle from me.

Kinda what I was hoping for. Who will be getting your nickels that I am hoping will become my nickels?

CSC · #17 08-17-2010, 05:32 PM

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Kinda what I was hoping for. Who will be getting your nickels that I am hoping will become my nickels?

I've had some goodluck with Euro's throughout the years, that's probably where I am leaning for the Million/Bev D.