Obama's support for Ground Zero Mosque

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Well, no, I don't "need" to answer anything. I think you "need" to educate yourself on this subject. If you had paid attention to any of the background in the news on this story at all, over the past months, you'd know that there are multiple mosques in that neighborhood, always have been, just as there are multiple churches in it. The group in question doesn't own "all" the mosques in that neighborhood, just like different congregations support different churches in that neighborhood..

so now there is not one but multiple mosques in the area and yet they want another?

Ok I call bullshit and now show a map of the multiple mosques in the area!

PS Apartments with rugs and bad music don't count

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

so now there is not one but multiple mosques in the area and yet they want another?

Ok I call bullshit and now show a map of the multiple mosques in the area!

PS Apartments with rugs and bad music don't count

No. You correct your own damn ignorance. I'm tired of it. "The group in question doesn't own "all" the mosques in that neighborhood, just like different congregations support different churches in that neighborhood."

It's not a difficult concept. Look at any of many news stories and background stories on this - there were several last weekend with maps showing the mosques within a mile or so.

You know, so the people who didn't like a mosque "two blocks from" ground zero could be asked what they thought about the mosque already "four blocks" from ground zero. Or the one "six blocks" from ground zero.

[Riot]

Here ya go, Dell. Took about 2 seconds. I count 15 mosques. Wow! That's sorta equal to the 15 "churches" of various denominations I got on another search that took about 2 seconds.

Freedom of religion. It's a great thing about America.

http://indyposted.com/37871/mosque-n...isting-mosque/

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Here ya go, Dell. Took about 2 seconds. I count 15 mosques. Wow! That's sorta equal to the 15 "churches" of various denominations I got on another search that took about 2 seconds.

Freedom of religion. It's a great thing about America.

http://indyposted.com/37871/mosque-n...isting-mosque/

especially when you hit what is a supposed mosque and get nothing. More islamic BS just like their call to prayer that Obama calls the 'i want to cum in my pants Al Gore, Bubba style' song of the universe

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

especially when you hit what is a supposed mosque and get nothing.

Psst ... hey, Village Idiot. The story is not a clickable link. Try going to the original article (linked in the story). Or you can use Mapquest. On the internets.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Psst ... hey, Village Idiot. The story is not a clickable link. Try going to the original article (linked in the story). Or you can use Mapquest. On the internets.

like i said apartments w/carpet whether one of the 911 martyrs lived there or not is meaningless IMO.

BTW a block in NYC is about a 10 miles (hell 100) in Kentucky.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

like i said apartments w/carpet whether one of the 911 martyrs lived there or not is meaningless IMO.

That's not what is listed.

BTW a block in NYC is about a 10 miles

Sure, Dell. Now go take your medicine.

[Danzig]

this is EXACTLY what i mean when i say it has nothing to do with religion:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38733523...deastn_africa/


they are terrorists first, last and always. killing fellow muslims is a sure sign that they are not motivated by religion. they are motivated by hate. we weren't attacked here because of a differing religion, but because they hate us. not because many here are christians, but because we're americans, because of what we stand for. after all, we have every religion known to man being practiced in this country.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

this is EXACTLY what i mean when i say it has nothing to do with religion:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38733523...deastn_africa/


they are terrorists first, last and always. killing fellow muslims is a sure sign that they are not motivated by religion. they are motivated by hate. we weren't attacked here because of a differing religion, but because they hate us. not because many here are christians, but because we're americans, because of what we stand for. after all, we have every religion known to man being practiced in this country.

that is not true Zig. Its a well known fact that lots of Muslims dont like each other. Its based on religion too. Sunni Muslims, Kurd Muslins, Shiite Muslims.. they hate each other because they have differences with the Muslim religion.
America taking away Sadam (may his soul rot in hell) paved the way for increase violence between the Sunni's & Shiites because Sadam just scared everyone into submission. The hate between the Shiites and Sunnis goes back to the 600's when some Shiite killed some Sunni big guy (or vice versa)

& Remember Saddam's wasnt particularly nice to the Kurds (though I will admit that had to do more with power than religion.. though he did single out the Sunni Muslim, non-arab base (Kurds).

[miraja2]

I think building a mosque there is a terrible idea.
But then again, I'm actually annoyed any time anybody builds a mosque anywhere.
Of course, the same is true for a Roman Catholic church, a Protestant church, or a Jewish synagogue.
Rank ignorance and devotion to superstition annoys me...in all of its forms.

[dellinger63]

This time I'll put my faith in the hands of NYC Ironworkers who hopefully won't lift a finger for this project.

[Danzig]

from the washington post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...rss=rss_nation

Religious tolerance, then and now
Debating the Ground Zero mosque on the streets of D.C.
By Dana Milbank
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, August 17, 2010

"To bigotry no sanction."
-- George Washington



"Peaceful Muslims, pls refudiate."
-- Sarah Palin


Two hundred twenty years ago today, the Jews of Newport, R.I., wrote a proclamation for President George Washington on his visit to their synagogue the next day.

"Deprived as we heretofore have been of the invaluable rights of free Citizens," the Jews wrote to their famous visitor, we now "behold a Government, erected by the Majesty of the People . . . generously affording to All liberty of conscience, and immunities of Citizenship: deeming every one, of whatever Nation, tongue, or language, equal parts of the great governmental Machine."

Washington's reply the next day, a simple letter titled "To the Hebrew Congregation in Newport," set a standard for religious tolerance that guided the nation through two centuries. Here is that message in its entirety -- along with some alternative thoughts on the topic occasioned by the proposed mosque near Ground Zero:


this point is ridiculous:

"There should be no mosque near Ground Zero in New York so long as there are no churches or synagogues in Saudi Arabia. The time for double standards that allow Islamists to behave aggressively toward us while they demand our weakness and submission is over. . . . Nazis don't have the right to put up a sign next to the Holocaust museum in Washington."


-- Newt Gingrich

so, newt, we are to act, base our laws, change our beliefs, because of saudi arabia? there is a reason so many want to come here, live here-it's because of our freedoms that aren't available elsewhere. again, good people do not change how they are, act, believe, based on bad actions of others. how can we try to prevail upon saudi arabia to grant freedoms, if we do not? we set examples, we don't follow others bad ones. standing up for an unpopular minority and their rights isn't an indication of weakness, but of strength and a belief in our ideals.