Gary Stevens Breaks Collarbone and Pletcher Fined $200

randallscott35 · #1 08-16-2010, 12:14 PM

200? How do they come up with these numbers?

The Indomitable DrugS · #2 08-16-2010, 12:43 PM

That was the horse who they bet to favortisim. He pitched Velazquez at the start when he jumped up and absolutely smashed the top of his skull on the top of the starting gate.

I'm surprised they actually had that horse on the track and working out less than a week after he cracked his skull. I suppose the cut must not have been much and somehow he didn't have a concussion.

#3 08-16-2010, 12:45 PM

Why can't Todd be named Doug as well? It would be great! A Drug Pletcher thread! ROTFLMMFAO!!!!!!

randallscott35 · #4 08-16-2010, 12:46 PM

Hope people enjoyed their eggs at the track.

The Indomitable DrugS · #5 08-16-2010, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Why can't Todd be named Doug as well? It would be great! A Drug Pletcher thread! ROTFLMMFAO!!!!!!

Please, we all know Pletcher is hay, oats, and water.

The Indomitable DrugS · #6 08-16-2010, 01:07 PM

I'm not sure if you can or should compare a human athlete with an equine one.

But take Jahvid Best - the best running back in the Pac 10 last year. He gets a concussion and they don't even let him practice .. let alone play or even suit up for a single game for the final 8 weeks of the season.

As hard as this horse (he's the 1A) hit the top of his head on the gate less than a week prior to his workout - I'm pretty surprised he didn't get a concussion.

paisjpq · #7 08-16-2010, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I'm not sure if you can or should compare a human athlete with an equine one.

But take Jahvid Best - the best running back in the Pac 10 last year. He gets a concussion and they don't even let him practice .. let alone play or even suit up for a single game for the final 8 weeks of the season.

As hard as this horse (he's the 1A) hit the top of his head on the gate less than a week prior to his workout - I'm pretty surprised he didn't get a concussion.

horses have incredibly thick skulls and incredibly small brains...they shake off stuff that would have a human in the hospital. i would be far more concerned with a neck or back strain after something like that, than i would a concussion.

The Indomitable DrugS · #8 08-16-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq

horses have incredibly thick skulls and incredibly small brains...they shake off stuff that would have a human in the hospital. i would be far more concerned with a neck or back strain after something like that, than i would a concussion.

I see.

My grandfather eventually died from basically grazing his head on a harmless looking table when he fell backwards. He seemed perfectly fine at the hospital and they made it sound like he was only kept for precautionary reasons. The next days he's in a coma - and dead maybe ten days later.

It seemed like a pretty vicious shot to the head that horse took... but I really don't know anything about horses with that kind of stuff.

Riot · #9 08-16-2010, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I'm not sure if you can or should compare a human athlete with an equine one.

But take Jahvid Best - the best running back in the Pac 10 last year. He gets a concussion and they don't even let him practice .. let alone play or even suit up for a single game for the final 8 weeks of the season.

As hard as this horse (he's the 1A) hit the top of his head on the gate less than a week prior to his workout - I'm pretty surprised he didn't get a concussion.

Trouble is that few owners would pay for the CT or MRI of the skull to see if anything is there ($2K). Then, if you see something in the imaging, but there are no neuro signs, and the horse is acting normally, it will be hard to convince the owner/trainer to give the horse a few months off in paddock

Need to wait for the necropsy results. Could be something completely unassociated (aneurysm, etc)

paisjpq · #10 08-17-2010, 06:16 AM

Plus the nearest mri (unless I'm mistaken) is almost 3 hours away...adding to the hard sell on a clinically "normal" animal. But its not like Winstar is a cheapass organization...if warranted they would probably pay for a scan. So one has to assume the horse acted right.

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Trouble is that few owners would pay for the CT or MRI of the skull to see if anything is there ($2K). Then, if you see something in the imaging, but there are no neuro signs, and the horse is acting normally, it will be hard to convince the owner/trainer to give the horse a few months off in paddock

Need to wait for the necropsy results. Could be something completely unassociated (aneurysm, etc)

the_fat_man · #11 08-16-2010, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Please, we all know Pletcher is hay, oats, and water.

ha ha ha haha

Oh ****. I just got back from some pain in the ass work and I really needed the laugh. Thanks.

Sightseek · #12 08-16-2010, 12:46 PM

My speeding ticket was almost as much as Pletcher's fine.

clyde · #13 08-16-2010, 01:59 PM

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My speeding ticket was almost as much as Pletcher's fine.

^^^^Officer was surprised to see Uncly in passenger seat...didn't know anyone was in passenger seat.

Cannon Shell · #14 08-16-2010, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

200? How do they come up with these numbers?

How much should he have been fined? It is hardly a big offense especially considering the person in question has probably held hundreds of licenses in the past.

randallscott35 · #15 08-16-2010, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

How much should he have been fined? It is hardly a big offense especially considering the person in question has probably held hundreds of licenses in the past.

A grand min.

CSC · #16 08-16-2010, 01:17 PM

Double that to $400 for also employing Angel Cordero.

Cannon Shell · #17 08-16-2010, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

A grand min.

LOL

You do realize that Pletcher doesn't actually employ Stevens right?

randallscott35 · #18 08-16-2010, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

LOL

You do realize that Pletcher doesn't actually employ Stevens right?

So? Rules are rules.

Cannon Shell · #19 08-16-2010, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

So? Rules are rules.

The rule is there to prevent people who arent qualified to get a license to work. It is a state rule and as such has to have a reasonable fine. For a clerical matter $200 is actually a big fine. People who smoke in the shedrow get $100 and that is a whole lot worse than Gary Stevens not getting an exercise license to work a horse.

randallscott35 · #20 08-16-2010, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The rule is there to prevent people who arent qualified to get a license to work. It is a state rule and as such has to have a reasonable fine. For a clerical matter $200 is actually a big fine. People who smoke in the shedrow get $100 and that is a whole lot worse than Gary Stevens not getting an exercise license to work a horse.

"We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tote handle that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way."