Who are the 2 Year Olds People are talking about?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Betsy

Just what exactly is your problem? I suppose you have always thought that every move a trainer makes is exactly the right move? Good for you if that's the case.

Oddly enough I'm one of those lunatics who actually likes seeing horses run, especially graded stakes caliber horses in graded stakes races. I know, I'm weird.

NT

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Oddly enough I'm one of those lunatics who actually likes seeing horses run, especially graded stakes caliber horses in graded stakes races. I know, I'm weird.

NT

Right...............too bad Pletcher can't enter this horse back in the Saratoga Special.

What does your comment have to do with mine? You seriously don't think there is such a thing as too many races in a short space of time? Especially with a 2 year old?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Betsy

Right...............too bad Pletcher can't enter this horse back in the Saratoga Special.

What does your comment have to do with mine? You seriously don't think there is such a thing as too many races in a short space of time? Especially with a 2 year old?

Sweetheart, come on now, your record of complaining when horses are entered in certain races is endless. Running this horse back in 23 days is now some great affront? Please, just because the modern day super trainer thinks that every horse needs 40+ days doesn't mean you have to buy their BS lines.

NT

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Sweetheart, come on now, your record of complaining when horses are entered in certain races is endless. Running this horse back in 23 days is now some great affront? Please, just because the modern day super trainer thinks that every horse needs 40+ days doesn't mean you have to buy their BS lines.

NT

Well obviously if the Hopeful is later in the schedule than I think then that changes things..........

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Betsy

Well obviously if the Hopeful is later in the schedule than I think then that changes things..........

Yeah right. You'd still find a problem with it.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Yeah right. You'd still find a problem with it.

Ok, so what? If you want to get on my case about this, so be it...............

[AlreadyHome]

Wine Police another 2yr old with a Buzz thats in the same stable with a future King,.. Kantharos

[clyde]

Originally Posted by Betsy

Ok, so what? If you want to get on my case about this, so be it...............

And what is your prob......oh forget it.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Betsy

Right...............too bad Pletcher can't enter this horse back in the Saratoga Special.

What does your comment have to do with mine? You seriously don't think there is such a thing as too many races in a short space of time? Especially with a 2 year old?

How do you think horses handled it before the "new era" of horse management?

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

How do you think horses handled it before the "new era" of horse management?

Back in the good old days? They handled it just fine.

[Sightseek]

Thoroughbred Times published a chart recently of the number of starters and races carded for two year olds and the decline is fairly signifcant. Just a few years ago Afleet Alex would be preparing for his 4th start...

(What were they thinking only giving him two weeks between an Allowance and the Sanford Stakes?! )

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Thoroughbred Times published a chart recently of the number of starters and races carded for two year olds and the decline is fairly signifcant. Just a few years ago Afleet Alex would be preparing for his 4th start...

(What were they thinking only giving him two weeks between an Allowance and the Sanford Stakes?! )

Affirmed won the Sanford on August 17 and the Hopeful on August 27, after having run in two stakes downstate, the Youthful on June 15 and the Great American on July 6, and flying across country to win the Hollywood Juvenile Championship on July 23. And breaking his maiden at the end of May.

City Zip in 2000 is the last colt to have won all three open stakes for 2yos at Saratoga (there used to be more - Man o' War ran in 4 stakes at Saratoga as a 2yo). This "my horsey is too fragile to run back in two (three, or whatever) weeks" attitude is a very new development. Even Bob Baffert remarked after Silverbulletday was inducted into the Hall of Fame, "I'd forgotten we ran her that often." And that was barely 10 years ago.