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Old 10-08-2006, 03:20 AM
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It's a "wait and see thing right now". If Bernardini wins the BC Classic, he's HOY hand down. Much repsect to Barbaro, but I'm not sure if he woulda beaten Bernardini or Preakness day. But if Bernardini doesn't win the Classic, I agree with you 100%. THE CLASSIC MEANS EVERYTHING...
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Old 10-08-2006, 07:30 AM
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barbaro is not in the picture. bernardini, lava man, or invasor. the winner of the classic wins hoy. one of those three will win. nobody else has a shot. somebody else might finish ahead of lava man or invasor, but only lava man or invasor could finish ahead of bernardini.

bernardini is going to be hoy. he is 5-6 lenghts better than anything out there.
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Old 10-08-2006, 07:42 AM
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The only thing that is becoming very clear to me is and this comes from reading several of your posts.


Sumitas=Absolutely Clueless I am putting it nicely.

Tommy Albertrani is one of the Good guys in racing today and I say that because I know him pretty well.
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Old 10-08-2006, 08:28 PM
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The only thing that is becoming very clear to me is and this comes from reading several of your posts.


Sumitas=Absolutely Clueless I am putting it nicely.

Tommy Albertrani is one of the Good guys in racing today and I say that because I know him pretty well.
you know him so well then pass my opening post to him...he's gotten lucky by picking up pieces the last few months.
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Old 10-08-2006, 04:05 PM
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You know, I was going to write a response to this unbelievably ridiculous post, but there are so many quotes in here that have already destroyed it by using, you know, logic, I think I'll just post some of the ones I like the most.

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barbaro is not in the picture. bernardini, lava man, or invasor. the winner of the classic wins hoy. one of those three will win. nobody else has a shot. somebody else might finish ahead of lava man or invasor, but only lava man or invasor could finish ahead of bernardini.

bernardini is going to be hoy. he is 5-6 lenghts better than anything out there.
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The only thing that is becoming very clear to me is and this comes from reading several of your posts.


Sumitas=Absolutely Clueless I am putting it nicely.
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where was he?
he was preparing his horse and not rushing him to meet your stupid expectations of what a HOY campaign is...
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Well I guess it's good that you don't have a vote.
AND MY ABSOLUTE FAVORITE..

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The only thing that makes me happier than Bernardini winning is seeing whiners marinate in their own misery. Right - Tom was supposed to rush a maiden breaker into the Florida Derby just in case the horse turned out to be a monster so that, as a pre-emptive strike, he could defend himself later against any haters out there.

Enjoy your bitterness
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Old 10-08-2006, 04:16 PM
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Feel free, Ateam and thanks!

You know, I'm really enjoying this now. I visit and post on several message boards, and on each one, there is at least a couple of people who's utterly nonsensical ravings about Bernardini make me want to either or .

One poster on another board said that Bernardini didn't impress him and pointed out that he was sweaty after the race and so the race clearly took a lot out of him......That may have been my favorite anti-Bernardini post of all time. I saw him after the race - yes, he probably didn't have a good deoderant on since the colt had some visible droplets of sweat. He was great in the winner's circle, tossing his head and not standing still ; colt crackled with energy. I know we haven't yet had to see it on the track, but I really do think this is an ultra-competitive horse. A local racing writer (NY Newsday) called Bernardini fierce, and I think that is a good description. By the way, he apparently came out of Gold Cup in fine fettle, bouncing around like he'd never run - I love to read that. He's got a wonderfully strong constitution.
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Old 10-08-2006, 04:20 PM
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'Fresh' horses do not win BC races, as a rule. Therefore, I see Invasor and David Junior with little chance. The award is between the two most worthy, Bernardini and Lava Man.
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Old 10-08-2006, 05:47 PM
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The bigger question is what happens if Invasor finishes ahead of Lava Man but Invasor doesn't win the race (expecting Bernardini or David Junior to win). Who is champion Older Male? I still say Lava Man given 4 Grade 1's with one on turf plus a Grade 2 and a million $ restricted stakes race trump 3 east coast Grade 1's. Any thoughts?
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Old 10-08-2006, 05:53 PM
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The bigger question is what happens if Invasor finishes ahead of Lava Man but Invasor doesn't win the race (expecting Bernardini or David Junior to win). Who is champion Older Male? I still say Lava Man given 4 Grade 1's with one on turf plus a Grade 2 and a million $ restricted stakes race trump 3 east coast Grade 1's. Any thoughts?
I think the champion Older Male is going to be Lava Man. I think he is actually going to run well at Churchill Downs. I changed my mind about him.
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Old 10-08-2006, 06:07 PM
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i think lava man has top older wrapped up, multi-surface winner, unbeaten all year.
it is hard to see one of these three not winning. but you never know, which is why they run them! certainly will put a wrinkle into things. but at this point i don't see barbaro getting hoy. i think either bernardini or lava man will get hoy even if they both lose. only way one of them doesn't get it is if invasor wins the classic.
someone asked if its believed invasor will really run in the classic? if he's healthy, yeah, i think he does.
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