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Old 08-12-2010, 09:35 AM
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If Zito has a rabbit for Ice Box - now is the time to use it.
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Old 08-12-2010, 10:16 AM
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If Zito has a rabbit for Ice Box - now is the time to use it.
Depends on whether NYRA wants the track to play fair or not. I'm thinkin', after the Whitney DEBACLE, they're likely to go back to what 'works': SPEED FAVORING.
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Old 08-12-2010, 10:30 AM
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Depends on whether NYRA wants the track to play fair or not. I'm thinkin', after the Whitney DEBACLE, they're likely to go back to what 'works': SPEED FAVORING.
Very fast dirt tracks - in general - are among the most deep closer friendly kind of tracks - and you see more total pace meltdown on those kind of tracks than any other.

If the track is souped up and playing very fast - it would likely only help a deep closer like Ice Box.

The slower and more tiring tracks typically favor speed more because jockeys tend to ride them much less aggressively. The opposite happens in souped up dirt tracks.

The most inside-speed biased track in the country right now is at Presque Isle. That place makes the old Keeneland dirt track look like a ridiculously fair race track.
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Old 08-12-2010, 11:26 AM
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Trickmeister?
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Old 08-12-2010, 11:37 AM
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Trickmeister?
He is supposed to be there. Supposedly Dutrow worked him with Rail Trip and out-finished him if you can believe the IEAH propaganda.
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Old 08-12-2010, 11:39 AM
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What?...no makemusic4me??
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Old 08-12-2010, 11:42 AM
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If Zito has a rabbit for Ice Box - now is the time to use it.
didn't he try to do the same thing with fly down?

damn rabbit almost won the race while fly down was mia

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Old 08-12-2010, 11:51 AM
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Miner's Reserve was certainly not being used as a rabbit in the Jim Dandy. He's got a different owner than Fly Down - and he was in there to win the race.
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Old 08-12-2010, 12:31 PM
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Confirmed

Super Saver
First Dude
Pleasant Prince
A Little Warm
Admiral Alex
Trickmeister


Probable

Trappe Shot (Either here or King's Bishop-Kieran said wants no part of Discreetly Mine tho)
Afleet Express
Miner's Reserve
Friend or Foe
Concord Point (With LaL out he is Baffert's Plan B with Garcia aboard)
Ice Box (With the Frenchman)

Possible

Fly Down
American Lion
Golden Moka (Winner of Prince of Wales)

Last edited by tjfla : 08-12-2010 at 12:44 PM. Reason: Golden Moka
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Old 08-12-2010, 12:34 PM
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Last night on Facebook, Charly's page said he is going to be out for a while with a bone bruise.
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Old 08-12-2010, 12:35 PM
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Guess he is out then

Should be a big field no matter what

Best line about Trickmeister is he is going wire to wire and he will wear down First Dude!! Gotta love IEAH
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Confirmed

Super Saver
First Dude
Pleasant Prince
A Little Warm
Admiral Alex
Trickmeister


Probable

Trappe Shot (Either here or King's Bishop-Kieran said wants no part of Discreetly Mine tho)
Afleet Express
Miner's Reserve
Friend or Foe
Concord Point (With LaL out he is Baffert's Plan B with Garcia aboard)
Ice Box (With the Frenchman)

Possible

Fly Down
American Lion
Thank you
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Old 08-12-2010, 12:40 PM
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Thank you
No problem-probably is 1 or 2 more horses considering the Travers but no idea,those are only ones I have seen so far. Add Golden Moka,no clue about the horse other than 10-1 winner of Prince of Wales
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Old 08-12-2010, 01:27 PM
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No problem-probably is 1 or 2 more horses considering the Travers but no idea,those are only ones I have seen so far. Add Golden Moka,no clue about the horse other than 10-1 winner of Prince of Wales
Were you saying there that Julien Leparoux is going to ride Ice Box? I like that change a lot.

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Old 08-12-2010, 01:32 PM
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I don't - Lezcano's a perfect fit.
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Old 08-12-2010, 01:40 PM
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Were you saying there that Julien Leparoux is going to ride Ice Box? I like that change a lot.

NT
That is the plan if Ice Box runs. Leparoux gets the mount


Lezcano still has the mount of Fly Down if he runs
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Old 08-12-2010, 05:14 PM
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Confirmed

Super Saver
First Dude
Pleasant Prince
A Little Warm
Admiral Alex
Trickmeister


Probable

Trappe Shot (Either here or King's Bishop-Kieran said wants no part of Discreetly Mine tho)
Afleet Express
Miner's Reserve
Friend or Foe
Concord Point (With LaL out he is Baffert's Plan B with Garcia aboard)
Ice Box (With the Frenchman)

Possible

Fly Down
American Lion
Golden Moka (Winner of Prince of Wales)

After First Dude's last race...i think they finally need to just go in a 1x.
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Old 08-13-2010, 12:15 PM
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It looks like Miner's Reserve will be Out and Ice Box/Fly Down In if Zito has his way.

Zito says they gotta find a new jockey for him and he doesn't think Miner's Reserve can do anything with First Dude,Trickmeister and A Little Warm out front
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Old 08-20-2010, 01:05 PM
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Afleet Again and Steinbeck were mentioned as possible by the NYRA and Zito will choose which 2 out of his 3 will run on Sat.(Ice Box and either Fly Down or Miner's Reserve)
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