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Old 08-12-2010, 07:40 AM
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If you are paying attention to anything other than the spacing of the works, it's really a waste of time imo.
the only time I think its helpful to look at works is for Maidens & first time starters. just my opinion but I like to see a first time starter throw a bullet work before the race..

all other races works are meaningless for me... except for the spacing of them.
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Old 08-12-2010, 08:07 AM
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the only time I think its helpful to look at works is for Maidens & first time starters. just my opinion but I like to see a first time starter throw a bullet work before the race..

all other races works are meaningless for me... except for the spacing of them.
I demand 5 furlong works and hopefully a bullet within the last month
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Old 08-12-2010, 08:23 AM
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Listening to a trainer and getting the word from the backside is generally the best way to bet firsters.
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Old 08-12-2010, 08:27 AM
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Listening to a trainer and getting the word from the backside is generally the best way to bet firsters.
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Old 08-12-2010, 10:19 AM
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Listening to a trainer and getting the word from the backside is generally the best way to bet firsters.
listening to Payson Dave is better than listening to the trainers IMO.

sometimes you can get a good tip on firsters though.

But I agree with jms. If I'm going to put $ on a firster, I want to see a bullet in the final work or two, and I prefer to see it at 5 furlongs, not 3 furlongs.

But I'm not much of a handicapper at all, I could be way off base.

But Payson Dave and that workout (and sometimes breeding and trainer 1st time stats) are all I'll bet firsters off of.

Usually, maiden races like this are just best to enjoy without a wager though... IMO
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Old 08-12-2010, 12:04 PM
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Three of the first four horses in the 3rd today are Dance With Ravens debuters going 5.5f. Wow.

I wouldn't be shocked if all three of them are prepping for turf routes.

The goofy ass one starting from the rail RNA'd for 12K a few months ago. Long stride and pretty green.

The dam of the David Donk one won her debut on the turf and won a stake goign 9f on turf.

The dam of the Aquilino won her debut going 4.5 furlongs on the dirt and was actually a solid 4th to Flanders in the Spinaway. Later ended up being a Graded Stakes winning turf router.

If any of those horses can run at all .. it will most likely be going long on turf.
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Old 08-12-2010, 12:22 PM
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listening to Payson Dave is better than listening to the trainers IMO.

sometimes you can get a good tip on firsters though.

But I agree with jms. If I'm going to put $ on a firster, I want to see a bullet in the final work or two, and I prefer to see it at 5 furlongs, not 3 furlongs.

But I'm not much of a handicapper at all, I could be way off base.

But Payson Dave and that workout (and sometimes breeding and trainer 1st time stats) are all I'll bet firsters off of.

Usually, maiden races like this are just best to enjoy without a wager though... IMO
oh boy...maybe I should remove my tounge from my cheek now
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