"A Roaring Start"----Handle?

randallscott35 · #1 08-10-2010, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Where does it say that the first Thursday was not included? What the article says is "the first two full weeks."

NT

There was no 1st Thursday this year. They started on a Friday for a reason.

NTamm1215 · #2 08-10-2010, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

There was no 1st Thursday this year. They started on a Friday for a reason.

You're reading it wrong. They compared the same 12 days from 2009-2010.

"Attendance for the first two full weeks of the meet (12 days, Days 5 through 16) was 271,800, down 3.2 percent from 280,843 for the first two weeks (12 days) of the 2009 meet, with a daily average of 22,650 compared to 23,404. (*See note on attendance below.)"

http://www.nyra.com/saratoga/stories/Aug092010f.shtml

NT

randallscott35 · #3 08-10-2010, 06:33 PM

Those are not the same first 12 days(see below)...To me, its not an apples to apples comparison but that's fine even if you look at it that way. It is down from last year, yes better than the -10% industry but a disappointment if you ask me....And just so people know 75% of my action since Toga opened is on Toga. Its still my favorite meet to be at and one of the best places in the world....It is not my favorite betting meet. That would be Belmont Fall. I say this simply b/c people think I am simply anti NYRA which is not true. But press releases like that are silly.

• Attendance for the first two full weeks of the meet was 271,800, down 3.2% from 280,843 for the first two weeks (12 days) of the 2009 meet, with a daily average of 22,650 compared to 23,404. (*See note on attendance below.)

TheSpyder · #4 08-10-2010, 06:41 PM

And your point is what? Are you surprised? Are we now going to start a thread about what is "silly" in horse racing. Cue Clyde..........

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Those are not the same first 12 days(see below)...To me, its not an apples to apples comparison but that's fine even if you look at it that way. It is down from last year, yes better than the -10% industry but a disappointment if you ask me....And just so people know 75% of my action since Toga opened is on Toga. Its still my favorite meet to be at and one of the best places in the world....It is not my favorite betting meet. That would be Belmont Fall. I say this simply b/c people think I am simply anti NYRA which is not true. But press releases like that are silly.

• Attendance for the first two full weeks of the meet was 271,800, down 3.2% from 280,843 for the first two weeks (12 days) of the 2009 meet, with a daily average of 22,650 compared to 23,404. (*See note on attendance below.)

randallscott35 · #5 08-10-2010, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder

And your point is what? Are you surprised? Are we now going to start a thread about what is "silly" in horse racing. Cue Clyde..........

Put the drinks down. My point was in my original post. Read slowly.

TheSpyder · #6 08-10-2010, 07:59 PM

You're amazing. How many driinks have I had? If you're within 2, you get a prize on the top shelf.

randallscott35 · #7 08-10-2010, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder

You're amazing. How many driinks have I had? If you're within 2, you get a prize on the top shelf.

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NTamm1215 · #8 08-10-2010, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Those are not the same first 12 days(see below)...To me, its not an apples to apples comparison but that's fine even if you look at it that way. It is down from last year, yes better than the -10% industry but a disappointment if you ask me....And just so people know 75% of my action since Toga opened is on Toga. Its still my favorite meet to be at and one of the best places in the world....It is not my favorite betting meet. That would be Belmont Fall. I say this simply b/c people think I am simply anti NYRA which is not true. But press releases like that are silly.

• Attendance for the first two full weeks of the meet was 271,800, down 3.2% from 280,843 for the first two weeks (12 days) of the 2009 meet, with a daily average of 22,650 compared to 23,404. (*See note on attendance below.)

I don't think you're reading it right. The numbers in comparison are for the first two FULL weeks of the 2010 meet (July 28-August 2, August 4-August 9) vs. the first two full weeks of 2009. If anything, the 2009 numbers should be significantly higher given that the opening day/weekend cards were not counted for 2010.

NT

randallscott35 · #9 08-10-2010, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I don't think you're reading it right. The numbers in comparison are for the first two FULL weeks of the 2010 meet (July 28-August 2, August 4-August 9) vs. the first two full weeks of 2009. If anything, the 2009 numbers should be significantly higher given that the opening day/weekend cards were not counted for 2010.

NT

Actually the best comparison I think is the races run number and that is a percent or two behind last year.

NTamm1215 · #10 08-10-2010, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Actually the best comparison I think is the races run number and that is a percent or two behind last year.

I agree, the difference in races run from year to year is 116 (2010) vs. 120 (2009). When you take that into consideration the result is exactly what NYRA advertised on its website, "Handle nearly even with races run through two full weeks at the Spa."

NT

randallscott35 · #11 08-10-2010, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I agree, the difference in races run from year to year is 116 (2010) vs. 120 (2009). When you take that into consideration the result is exactly what NYRA advertised on its website, "Handle nearly even with races run through two full weeks at the Spa."

NT

Roaring indeed.

art vanderlay · #12 08-10-2010, 08:19 PM

I was there Saturday and Sunday, Big crowds both days but on Saturday I had to park on the Oklahoma track. First time in many visits i have ever seen that.
I really enjoyed driving my car on the track. I gained respect for the horses and jocks reaching speeds of 40 mph. It took an Hour after the races to get off the track because of traffic.

randallscott35 · #13 08-10-2010, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by art vanderlay

I was there Saturday and Sunday, Big crowds both days but on Saturday I had to park on the Oklahoma track. First time in many visits i have ever seen that.
I really enjoyed driving my car on the track. I gained respect for the horses and jocks reaching speeds of 40 mph. It took an Hour after the races to get off the track because of traffic.

Gotta leave after the feature if you drive. Just bet the last and go.

art vanderlay · #14 08-10-2010, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Gotta leave after the feature if you drive. Just bet the last and go.

Thanks for that sage advice but I love Saratoga and I am really not in a hurry to leave.

Antitrust32 · #15 08-11-2010, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Gotta leave after the feature if you drive. Just bet the last and go.

best way to do it is just stay for an hour to so after the last race, have a few beers and bet simulcast, or go to Siro's & then off for some dinner and more beers.

Travis Stone · #16 08-11-2010, 09:11 AM

Let's go through the list...

1. Can't rail NYRA for having good, bettable cards, because they have, despite giving away "less" money than other tracks.

2. Can't rail NYRA for weak stakes, because the stakes have been awesome, including the race of the year in the Whitney.

3. Can't rail NYRA for bizarro world stuff, because the meet has gone pretty well.

SO...

Let's get on them for language in a press release.

Perhaps randallscott can be Art Vandalay's latex salesman?