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08-10-2010, 02:31 PM
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08-10-2010, 02:34 PM
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2/9/03 Fairgrounds... It was a Grade 3 that Balto Star actually won, Mineshaft finished second, less then a length ahead of Bonapaw. After that race is when he appears to have got really good, winning 6/7 and all 7 races he beyered 114 or higher.
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08-10-2010, 02:46 PM
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Candy Ride (obvious talent / very fast)
Curlin (Demonstrated great ability right off the bat with multiple terrific performances in an incredibly short period of time from his debut to the Preakness....unbelievable) Ghostzapper (obvious talent / very fast) Discreet Cat (obvious talent / very fast) Empire Maker (This horse always had the reputation of being a bit of a goof. He never seemed to really put it all together mentally, and had some injury problems, etc. He won three G1s and never finished out of the exacta on talent alone)
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08-10-2010, 02:49 PM
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I dont know about Discreet Cat, what was he? A true true miler? If thats the case then I guess so. I think Midnight Lute was a better sprinter and Bernardini would have killed him going 9f.
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08-10-2010, 02:55 PM
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08-10-2010, 02:57 PM
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That was a WOW type effort... A lot like the Borrego video I posted the other day.
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08-10-2010, 09:21 PM
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What's the view on Lost in the Fog? He did do a 1:07 and change 6f. He's also a King's Bishop winner. RIP to him and Harry "Battle of the G** D*** Bulge" Aleo. One of the funniest moments of live sports tv interviews I've seen. I bet more than one producer passed out. I think Quint was the interviewer, and he went pretty pale. In fairness, it was a pretty stupid question.
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08-10-2010, 02:47 PM
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The title of your thread got me thinking. I believe Raw Talent was the name of the autobiography of 80's adult film star, Jerry Butler. A humorous read, if I recall correctly.
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08-10-2010, 05:30 PM
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Kickin n Screamin-bad trainer
Hank-Don't mess with him Lloydobler- Able to place many times with a slimmed down Sciacca galloping him Joe the Dude-you don't know yet Angry Dragon-Shiek Kauffman calls the shots
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08-10-2010, 08:53 PM
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I know Midnight Lute gets many a mention on this thread, but I'm not sure he's fully being appreciated even so. If not for a breathing problem, he'd be more like Ghostzapper in terms of range of distance. Baffert originally figured him as a TC/BCC hopeful, but couldn't fix the air issues in time. Given how he stayed sprinting, I guess it was never fully resolved.
http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/hor...aul&id=3120551 Baffert flat out says he was going to be his Derby horse. I believe it. I think you're talking a horse with the raw talent to be a world beater at any distance. I'd be excited to have one of his foals on the way, honestly. I've always felt Real Quiet was underrated, and it's a real shame ML had those problems. If he gets a TC hopeful, what do you wanna bet someone's gonna go 'well his sire was a champion sprinter so you can't expect him to go long.' Completely underestimates the potential of his progeny (provided he doesn't also pass on his own physical flaw).
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08-10-2010, 09:05 PM
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He was a really good one, but if your going to add a horse like him, off of 1 giant effort, then I guess I can add Borrego off of one giant effort.
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08-10-2010, 09:12 PM
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08-10-2010, 09:17 PM
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Where were you yesterday? LOL I could have used this backup. His Pacific Classic before the JCGC was huge also.
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08-11-2010, 07:22 AM
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1.) Zenyatta
2.) Furthest Land 3.) Vale of York 4.) She Be Wild 5.) Man of Iron 6.) Dancing In Silks 7.) Joe Flacko - or whatever it was the '08 BC Classic winner was named 8.) Stardom Bound
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08-11-2010, 10:49 AM
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Nobody (including me) even going to make a case for Quality Road in terms of "raw talent". I guess everyone fell over themselves jumping off the bandwagon after he was beaten a neck last week by what is probably the best horse in America now. QR has been to post 11 times and set 4 stakes/track records at 6.5 and 9f in NY and Florida. Pure speed and ability can't be questioned.
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08-11-2010, 10:55 AM
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If only anyone had seen that Rachel Alexandra horse run in the KY Oaks for Wiggens.
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08-11-2010, 10:58 AM
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Quality Road is one of the best horses I have ever saw. Im still disapointed in his Whitney effort and for letting me down, and proving my dream false.
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08-11-2010, 11:00 AM
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No love for Invasor? Travels from Uruguay to the US, to Dubai, back to US, back to Dubai. Unbeaten in the Western Hemisphere. Made Bernardini look one-paced in the BC Classic. Or are only front-running/right off the lead sorts the only ones who have 'raw talent?'
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08-11-2010, 11:40 AM
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Since it's no fun debating the obvious ones. . .
Here's an obscure one: Magnificience. Her debut was a thing of beauty. . . and then came the synthetics. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyfhfFmhidg
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