Who are the best, as of today?

the_fat_man · #1 08-10-2010, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC

Hollywood Hit looked better to me last year, both he and Fatal Bullet look slower. Fatal Bullet hasn't been as fast as his 3 yr old season when he finished 2nd in The BC. I'm not sure what is going on with HH where he normally would have smoked Smokey Fire in that race, except that Jordan looks more mortal this year.

Yeah. Jordan was even better than Pletcher last year in that his horses were able to duel and KEEP GOING. This included HH and that nice mare of his Amazon Belle. (She come back even more 'mortal' than HH. )

HH has certainly not been as good this year but he's shown enough to indicate that he's LEGITIMATELY good. He beats SF easily last out if he changes leads. Watch the headon, he's staggering and drifting significantly in the stretch before the jocks finally snatches him and straightens him out a bit late.

Which brings up the question: what good is a jock if he/she can't help the horse a little bit? Is there a jock in the country that can consistently get a tiring horse going lefty to change leads?

CSC · #2 08-10-2010, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Yeah. Jordan was even better than Pletcher last year in that his horses were able to duel and KEEP GOING. This included HH and that nice mare of his Amazon Belle. (She come back even more 'mortal' than HH. )

HH has certainly not been as good this year but he's shown enough to indicate that he's LEGITIMATELY good. He beats SF easily last out if he changes leads. Watch the headon, he's staggering and drifting significantly in the stretch before the jocks finally snatches him and straightens him out a bit late.

Which brings up the question: what good is a jock if he/she can't help the horse a little bit? Is there a jock in the country that can consistently get a tiring horse going lefty to change leads?

You know I watch a fair amount of Woodbine races, and beating Jordan which would have been suicidal last year, this year atleast has been worth trying. I think the positive he had has scared him enough where he is playing it straight enough where you see the difference in the performances of a Hollywood Hit. I do know last year he would have been a handful for any horse in NA at 6 furlongs, Fatal Bullet on the other hand appearing in a route was a red flag to me he is not as fast as he once was, Baker tried unsuccessfully to stretch him out, now he is back to sprinting. I think we've seen the best of him and he doesn't look to be recovering his 3 yr old form. Jimmy Mac has never been one of my favorite jocks, his stats this year have dropped, he just happened to hook up with the right trainer's last yr.