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Old 08-09-2010, 11:07 PM
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I'm talking about observations over many years at many different tracks involving many different horses.

It doesn't matter either way to me though.
You know that it would obviously be dangerous for horses to run on cement. Why would it be dangerous? It would be dangerous because it is way too hard. That may be an extreme example but the point is that the horses need some cushion. How much cushion? I don't know exactly but when horses start running 6 furlongs in 1:07 and change, I would say that you're getting to the point where there's not enough cushion.
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Old 08-09-2010, 11:22 PM
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I don't know exactly but when horses start running 6 furlongs in 1:07 and change, I would say that you're getting to the point where there's not enough cushion.
Majesticperfection seems to beg to differ at the moment, and that race card hasn't exactly come back with horses limping to the bench -- in fact, they practically swept Saratoga Sunday.
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Old 08-10-2010, 01:58 AM
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Majesticperfection seems to beg to differ at the moment, and that race card hasn't exactly come back with horses limping to the bench -- in fact, they practically swept Saratoga Sunday.
Tracks are never so dangerous that most of the horses get hurt on a card. If 10% were getting hurt, that would be a really dangerous track. I don't know if the track at Prairie Meadows was dangerous or not, but knowing that some horses came back fine is hardly evidence that the track was safe.

You can ask any trainer and they will all tell you that they get more injuries when the track is too hard whether it's grass or dirt.
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Old 08-10-2010, 04:52 PM
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Any comparison of tracks from years past and now are pretty much not valid based on the difference in how horses are trained/raced. Perhaps if horses ran more often they wouldnt be as frail as they are when every race is "spaced" to try to produce max efforts.
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:27 PM
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Dougie just wanted a reason to think about Jazil.
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Old 08-11-2010, 09:42 AM
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Any comparison of tracks from years past and now are pretty much not valid based on the difference in how horses are trained/raced. Perhaps if horses ran more often they wouldnt be as frail as they are when every race is "spaced" to try to produce max efforts.
kind of like how I believe that pitch counts actually make a pitcher weaker?

Why could guys throw 140 pitches in a 4 man rotation and do fine but now if you hit the century mark its too much?

throwing more pitches can only make your arm stronger, IMO.

Did we start breeding humans differently also?
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Old 08-09-2010, 11:27 PM
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I would say that you're getting to the point where there's not enough cushion.
I have doubts more cushion is better.

Slower tracks are probably a little tougher and more stressful to run on - obviously a track has to provide some level of cushion — much more so than a concrete road for instance.
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