My favorite moment from the TVG Zenyatta telecast..

What baffles me about all of this is after she won the BC classic even the staunchest Zenyatta doubters said "well ok that finally proves she's a great horse". Since then she's won three more and now she sucks again. How can that be

[philcski]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

What baffles me about all of this is after she won the BC classic even the staunchest Zenyatta doubters said "well ok that finally proves she's a great horse". Since then she's won three more and now she sucks again. How can that be

You are rated based on your competition, no? How does beating the likes of Rinterval further her greatness?

I like Zenyatta. No, I really like Zenyatta. I don't like seeing her face total crap all the time. That's probably most fans' complaint.

Originally Posted by philcski

You are rated based on your competition, no? How does beating the likes of Rinterval further her greatness?

I like Zenyatta. No, I really like Zenyatta. I don't like seeing her face total crap all the time. That's probably most fans' complaint.

18 for 18 makes her greatness unquestioned IMO.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

18 for 18 makes her greatness unquestioned IMO.

YES!

Signed,

Peppers Pride

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

YES!

Signed,

Peppers Pride

we're so jealous.

regards,
secretariat, citation.

[Gate Dancer]

Originally Posted by Danzig

we're so jealous.

regards,
secretariat, citation.

Yeah, thank goodness she wasn't around when we were running................

Signed,
Alydar, Affirmed, Seattle Slew, Holy Bull, Spectacular Bid, Cigar, John Henry, Personal Ensign, Lady's Secret, Go For Wand, etc, etc, etc

[PatCummings]

How "great" do you have to be in this sport to be qualified for the Hall of Fame? If Point Given was elected, ANYONE could be...

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

18 for 18 makes her greatness unquestioned IMO.

LOL

Sharp Post



Peppers Pride was the greatest of them all!

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

What baffles me about all of this is after she won the BC classic even the staunchest Zenyatta doubters said "well ok that finally proves she's a great horse". Since then she's won three more and now she sucks again. How can that be

No one said she sucks. The idea that people defend her without regard for context baffles me. Any horse that wins 18 in a row against any manner of competition obviously is a superior individual. But what I maintain is that this years campaign has shown her to be merely superior to untested and decidely inferior (to be kind) fillies and really hasnt done a single thing to make anyone but the ardent supporters believe otherwise. Winning the BC was a very nice accomplishment (despite the obviously weak field for the event) but it hardly qualifies her for the ridiclousness that is spouted about her place among the greats, all of which proved themselves time after time in the top races, winning and losing to the best competition.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

No one said she sucks. The idea that people defend her without regard for context baffles me. Any horse that wins 18 in a row against any manner of competition obviously is a superior individual. But what I maintain is that this years campaign has shown her to be merely superior to untested and decidely inferior (to be kind) fillies and really hasnt done a single thing to make anyone but the ardent supporters believe otherwise. Winning the BC was a very nice accomplishment (despite the obviously weak field for the event) but it hardly qualifies her for the ridiclousness that is spouted about her place among the greats, all of which proved themselves time after time in the top races, winning and losing to the best competition.

[Thunder Gulch]

Well said, but the 50th time this same statement has been made to no avail with the Zen crowd. You cant rationalize with the irrational.....they read your statement as such:
No one said she sucks. The idea that people defend her without regard for context baffles me. Any horse that wins 18 in a row against any manner of competition obviously is a superior individual. But what I maintain is that this years campaign has shown her to be merely superior to untested and decidely inferior (to be kind) fillies and really hasnt done a single thing to make anyone but the ardent supporters believe otherwise. Winning the BC was a very nice accomplishment (despite the obviously weak field for the event) but it hardly qualifies her for the ridiclousness that is spouted about her place among the greats, all of which proved themselves time after time in the top races, winning and losing to the best competition..ADDBUT SHE NEVER LOST.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

Well said, but the 50th time this same statement has been made to no avail with the Zen crowd. You cant rationalize with the irrational.....they read your statement as such:
No one said she sucks. The idea that people defend her without regard for context baffles me. Any horse that wins 18 in a row against any manner of competition obviously is a superior individual. But what I maintain is that this years campaign has shown her to be merely superior to untested and decidely inferior (to be kind) fillies and really hasnt done a single thing to make anyone but the ardent supporters believe otherwise. Winning the BC was a very nice accomplishment (despite the obviously weak field for the event) but it hardly qualifies her for the ridiclousness that is spouted about her place among the greats, all of which proved themselves time after time in the top races, winning and losing to the best competition..ADDBUT SHE NEVER LOST.