Questions for Zenyatta Fans. . .

[knickslions2]

Face it men, the horse just knows how to win. She is toying with these fields. My favorite Zenyatta moment was in the breeders cup gate when Quality Road looked over and saw her there, crapped himself then bust through the gate to get the hell out of there. She is that good

[hockey2315]

Another worthless response. I should have known better.

[pba1817]

You losers can't even embrace something that is bringing positive attention to your beloved sport... She is great, beat all the best last year in the BCC and will probably be right there again this year with the speed ball pigs who are gonna stop at 1 1/4 in November at CD.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by pba1817

You losers can't even embrace something that is bringing positive attention to your beloved sport... She is great, beat all the best last year in the BCC and will probably be right there again this year with the speed ball pigs who are gonna stop at 1 1/4 in November at CD.

Positive attention?

By that I assume you mean dopey pretty horsey people that don't bet.

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Positive attention?

By that I assume you mean dopey pretty horsey people that don't bet.

That is precisely who I mean jerk off...

These people are the ones you need to entertain.

Do you think that the NFL cares about entertaining the hardcore gambler who will bet on coin tosses and halftime spreads? Or do they care about entertaining the housewife who has 3 kids and will support her team till she is 78yo? All the while buying tickets and merchandise?

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by pba1817

That is precisely who I mean jerk off...

These people are the ones you need to entertain.

Do you think that the NFL cares about entertaining the hardcore gambler who will bet on coin tosses and halftime spreads? Or do they care about entertaining the housewife who has 3 kids and will support her team till she is 78yo? All the while buying tickets and merchandise?

Bzzz we dont need fans we need gamblers.

[DerbyCat]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Bzzz we dont need fans we need gamblers.

Actually, the sport does need FANS, and gamblers, and owners, and leadership, and a lot of other things. It needs balance and sports like the NFL and MLB and even freakin' Major League Soccer have those things. I was just at a conference that the NFL Commissioner spoke at (he's surprisingly a very soft spoken man) and he talked about the how important the balance is between all user groups and how important the fans are. Without the fans, revenue drops - you need the balance. The sport of horse racing is really lacking in this balance.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by pba1817

That is precisely who I mean jerk off...

These people are the ones you need to entertain.

Do you think that the NFL cares about entertaining the hardcore gambler who will bet on coin tosses and halftime spreads? Or do they care about entertaining the housewife who has 3 kids and will support her team till she is 78yo? All the while buying tickets and merchandise?

I'm going to take a wild stab here, but marketing isn't your chosen profession, correct?

[tiggerv]

The surface is the answer. "Toying" has nothing to do with it.

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I'm going to take a wild stab here, but marketing isn't your chosen profession, correct?

Actually it is...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pba1817

That is precisely who I mean jerk off...

These people are the ones you need to entertain.

Do you think that the NFL cares about entertaining the hardcore gambler who will bet on coin tosses and halftime spreads? Or do they care about entertaining the housewife who has 3 kids and will support her team till she is 78yo? All the while buying tickets and merchandise?

the nfl isn't funded by gamblers. not much of a comparison between the biggest sport in the country and horse racing, which is absolutely funded by gamblers and doesn't have the tv saturation and marketing. racing doesn't need people seeking entertainment, it needs people willing to lay some money down on the horses.
a big crowd showed at del mar yesterday, but how was the handle?

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by Danzig

the nfl isn't funded by gamblers. not much of a comparison between the biggest sport in the country and horse racing, which is absolutely funded by gamblers and doesn't have the tv saturation and marketing. racing doesn't need people seeking entertainment, it needs people willing to lay some money down on the horses.
a big crowd showed at del mar yesterday, but how was the handle?

I would be willing to wager that the handle was better than any Saturday of the meet so far. Isn't that the point? To increase handle?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by pba1817

That is precisely who I mean jerk off...

These people are the ones you need to entertain.

Do you think that the NFL cares about entertaining the hardcore gambler who will bet on coin tosses and halftime spreads? Or do they care about entertaining the housewife who has 3 kids and will support her team till she is 78yo? All the while buying tickets and merchandise?

You put a lot of undue wear-and-tear on my scroll-wheel.

Who cares about fly by night racing fans/pretty horsey people who don't bet and have no interest in even learning how to handicap?

Tommy Brady's so cute and the New England Patriots are 18-0 - Yay!!! I'm a football fan now!!

[pba1817]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

You put a lot of undue wear-and-tear on my scroll-wheel.

Who cares about fly by night racing fans/pretty horsey people who don't bet and have no interest in even learning how to handicap?

Tommy Brady's so cute and the New England Patriots are 18-0 - Yay!!! I'm a football fan now!!

As long as they buy jerseys, tickets, and watch the games on TV. Who cares who they are?

Same focus should be placed upon horse racing, put the focus on entertaining the fans and increasing the experience when attending the races. Your handle will increase as a by product.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by pba1817

That is precisely who I mean jerk off...

These people are the ones you need to entertain.

Do you think that the NFL cares about entertaining the hardcore gambler who will bet on coin tosses and halftime spreads? Or do they care about entertaining the housewife who has 3 kids and will support her team till she is 78yo? All the while buying tickets and merchandise?

this is maybe the most clueless thing I've ever read on an internet message board.

WE NEED TO MARKET TO THE PEOPLE WHO DONT BET!!! COME ON NOW FOLKS!!

Those $2 entry tickets and all that merchandise drives UP the bottom line.. maybe I can get an autgraphed Musket Man photo or something? Betting is useless to tracks. Why would a track care about a gambler when they could get someone to buy a t-shirt!!

I'm hoping that I just havent read enough of this thread and pba's post was tongue in cheek.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pba1817

That is precisely who I mean jerk off...

These people are the ones you need to entertain.

Do you think that the NFL cares about entertaining the hardcore gambler who will bet on coin tosses and halftime spreads? Or do they care about entertaining the housewife who has 3 kids and will support her team till she is 78yo? All the while buying tickets and merchandise?

The gambler.

Why do they maintain "official injury reports"? Why did they stagger the late game starts on Sundays? Why do they do play games on thursday nights?

Football became popular via gambling, not housewives or NFL cares promotions. Same reason college football is now so popular, not because all of a sudden Boise State became such a compelling story.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by pba1817

You losers can't even embrace something that is bringing positive attention to your beloved sport... She is great, beat all the best last year in the BCC and will probably be right there again this year with the speed ball pigs who are gonna stop at 1 1/4 in November at CD.

Is she bringing positive attention to the sport? People who follow racing know she ran but the rest of the sports world doesn't. There was nothing on the front page of ESPN or any of the other main stream sports sites yesterday. If she shipped and ran against credible fields or against the boys she would garner attention for the sport. These races do nothing to promote the sport to the casual fan, they just stroke the connections egos.

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by 3kings

People who follow racing know she ran but the rest of the sports world doesn't. There was nothing on the front page of ESPN or any of the other main stream sports sites yesterday.

It was on Sports Center Sunday AM. I only know this because my brother, who doesn't follow the sport but knows that I do, and has heard me talking about her streak, called me yesterday to ask me where he could see a video of the race.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by pba1817

You losers can't even embrace something that is bringing positive attention to your beloved sport... She is great, beat all the best last year in the BCC and will probably be right there again this year with the speed ball pigs who are gonna stop at 1 1/4 in November at CD.

really?? barely anyone outside the "horse racing community" knows who BIG Z is.


and seriously? beat all the best last year in the BCC?? best at what exactly??

[dalakhani]

I don't think it's about her personality. I think it's preparation, surface and set up.

The trainer isn't going to have her cranked to beat that crew and with her running style and the way the race set up on that surface she wasn't going to beat them by much.