Zenyatta to the Beldame after Saturday

2Hot4TV · #1 08-05-2010, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC

I mentioned this was a possibility many months ago, the Beldame was appealing because it is a weight for age race that would bridge them perfectly with the BC Classic. It made more sense than going to Saratoga in late summer, travel back to California to prep for the classic at SA, and then back east to KY. The advantage here is one ship, 2 races win/lose call it a career.

Could it be that they dont want to train on dirt?

Theatrical · #2 08-05-2010, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

Could it be that they dont want to train on dirt?

Hollywood Park has a dirt training track that she gallops on.

Indian Charlie · #3 08-05-2010, 08:10 AM

Could it be they are disingenuous assholes?

slotdirt · #4 08-05-2010, 08:13 AM

I'm sorry, but did someone just post a link to finale of Sound of Music? I've heard many things, but Zenyatta as a member of the Von Trappe family? That's a new one.

Danzig · #5 08-05-2010, 09:20 AM

one thing i don't understand with all this talk of shipping...other horses who are aimed at several races on the east coast, stay on the east coast. they don't ship back and forth. lookin at lucky for instance, he's in saratoga. why can't they send zenyatta to new york, train her there, run her there, and then go to ky from there.

answer-because they don't want to. talk of all these races away from where she likes it best is just that, talk. her owners and trainer want her to go out undefeated. what's the best way to do that? keep doing exactly what they're doing.

RockHardTen1985 · #6 08-05-2010, 09:31 AM

I know because all those AMAZING east coast fillies have shipped out to Cali to take all those G1's from Zenyatta, right?
Easy money according to Doug, why not ship out there and try to beat or at worse run second in how many G1's over the last 3 years?

slotdirt · #7 08-05-2010, 09:37 AM

You do realize, RHT, that East Coast fillies run on dirt, right? And that there aren't any dirt tracks with GI races in California, right? I just want to make sure you're clear on that concept.

CSC · #8 08-05-2010, 09:38 AM

They should turn atleast one of those So Cal tracks back to dirt, then we will see just how many horses want to ship out west for easy money. This seems to be the most popular excuse for the Eastern based fans. My opinion, they still won't ship.

MaTH716 · #9 08-05-2010, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

one thing i don't understand with all this talk of shipping...other horses who are aimed at several races on the east coast, stay on the east coast. they don't ship back and forth. lookin at lucky for instance, he's in saratoga. why can't they send zenyatta to new york, train her there, run her there, and then go to ky from there.

answer-because they don't want to. talk of all these races away from where she likes it best is just that, talk. her owners and trainer want her to go out undefeated. what's the best way to do that? keep doing exactly what they're doing.

I could understand Sherriffs wanting Z to be in as much of a controlled enviorment as possible. Or at least with Sherriffs somewhere in the immediate vicinity to be able to check in and tend on her as he feels. Shipping and leaving her to train on the east coast would probably be outside of Sherriffs comfort zone. I just don't think he would be willing to leave her in someone else's care when he had to go back home and tend to the rest of the stable.
That being said, I still don't understand why they can't ship East for a race and then come back home.

Danzig · #10 08-05-2010, 09:44 AM

just saw on drf that zenyatta was entered for saturday. shireffs is still being coy about whether she'll actually run. but really, no surprise.

slotdirt · #11 08-05-2010, 09:44 AM

I think if they were actually thinking of shipping somewhere to the actual East Coast this season, it should have been done for this current start and not the one after this. That would have made the most sense schedule-wise.

10 pnt move up · #12 08-05-2010, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

.other horses who are aimed at several races on the east coast, stay on the east coast. they don't ship back and forth. lookin at lucky for instance, he's in saratoga

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Do you just make this stuff up? Lots of people who don't read will take your statement as a fact when its purely fantasy. Why would he go to Saratoga when the Travers was NEVER under consideration by MP and BB?

http://www.drf.com/news/lookin-lucky-recovering-illness

and the plan was to ship right back to Ca after the race till he got sick.

Danzig · #13 08-05-2010, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Do you just make this stuff up? Lots of people who don't read will take your statement as a fact when its purely fantasy. Why would he go to Saratoga when the Travers was NEVER under consideration by MP and BB?

http://www.drf.com/news/lookin-lucky-recovering-illness

and the plan was to ship right back to Ca after the race till he got sick.

no, i don't make up stuff. i read they had considered several options including the travers. i also read that since he's in saratoga, they're considering the woodward. i had also read that baffert was more interested in running on dirt, rather than synthetic. yes, he was sick, and yes, they have decided to remain there. i think that has more to do with the desire to stay on dirt than the illness.

from bloodhorse:

Baffert said it was a stroke of luck that he kept Lookin At Lucky at Monmouth Park following the Aug. 1 Haskell because it would have been a worse situation if the colt had been shipped while having a fever. Baffert had previously considered shipping Lookin At Lucky to Saratoga, although he was not fully committed to running in the Travers.