7/31 (SAR): Diana H. (G1), Jim Dandy S. (G2)

[analyizethis]

Originally Posted by Betsy

I love Fly Down; hate the post, but I don't think it will kill him.

Miner's Reserve is a talented colt in his own right; I would have preferred to see him run in the 3 year old stakes run the day after the Jim Dandy, especially if it turns out Zito is using him as a rabbit for Fly Down.

Nick was originially quoted as saying that Miner's Reserve was pointing for the Curlin, now he shows up here. When he went in the FLA Derby it was at the insistence of his then jockey KD and Bob LaPenta. Nick felt he wasn't ready and wheeling back off a big effort with short rest he was right.

Is there any sense that there is a similar situation here, where Bob has insisted that MR go in this spot (he was pretty soundly beaten by A Little Warm in his last)? Of course, Fly Down is Richard Pell's horse.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by analyizethis

Nick was originially quoted as saying that Miner's Reserve was pointing for the Curlin, now he shows up here. When he went in the FLA Derby it was at the insistence of his then jockey KD and Bob LaPenta. Nick felt he wasn't ready and wheeling back off a big effort with short rest he was right.

Is there any sense that there is a similar situation here, where Bob has insisted that MR go in this spot (he was pretty soundly beaten by A Little Warm in his last)? Of course, Fly Down is Richard Pell's horse.

MR has since been entered in the Curlin stakes - that's where I hope he goes. I like him a lot, but he's not a graded horse at this point - and I'd love to see him get a stakes win.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Betsy

MR has since been entered in the Curlin stakes - that's where I hope he goes. I like him a lot, but he's not a graded horse at this point - and I'd love to see him get a stakes win.

Are you sure you don't own Zenyatta?

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Are you sure you don't own Zenyatta?

I'm pretty sure I'm not related to the Moss's...........

Are you implying Miner's Reserve has a serious shot in this race? If not, then please explain why he's not better off in the Curlin? I personally don't want him in the race for 2 reasons: 1) I hate to root against one of my favorite horses and that's what would happen here. I'm very confident in Fly Down. 2) I don't think he belongs with these horses yet; what has he shown that makes you think he does? I love the horse, so it's not that I don't think he's not talented.

[tiggerv]

I'm pretty sure that Winslow Homer and MR were only entered in the Jim Dandy in case the Curlin didn't fill. I bet they both scratch out of the Jim Dandy.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by tiggerv

I'm pretty sure that Winslow Homer and MR were only entered in the Jim Dandy in case the Curlin didn't fill. I bet they both scratch out of the Jim Dandy.

i know they said that about winslow, but i didn't see that said about miner's reserve.

[Travis Stone]

Forever Together wins that race if she gets going a bit sooner... she didn't get on track until deep stretch then she rolled.

[Danzig]

who in there, besides fly down, is a real worry? second money if he manages that is 100k. that's better than a win in the curlin, isn't it? only way to know is to try.

actually, third here pays better then a win there. guess we'll see saturday.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by Danzig

who in there, besides fly down, is a real worry? second money if he manages that is 100k. that's better than a win in the curlin, isn't it? only way to know is to try.

actually, third here pays better then a win there. guess we'll see saturday.

Wouldn't you want to have a stakes win on your resume? Not that the Curlin would be easy, but obviously it would be easier.

I respect everyone in the field - I guess Afleet Express is the hot horse and will probably be the favorite.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Betsy

Wouldn't you want to have a stakes win on your resume? Not that the Curlin would be easy, but obviously it would be easier.

I respect everyone in the field - I guess Afleet Express is the hot horse and will probably be the favorite.

he has a legit shot in the dandy, there are no singles in here. no guts, no glory. black type looks good, a 75k stakes...not so much. plenty of time for him to get a 75k win under his belt. this race isn't looking to be a tough one. if he's doing well, i see no reason not to try.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Betsy

I'm pretty sure I'm not related to the Moss's...........

Are you implying Miner's Reserve has a serious shot in this race? If not, then please explain why he's not better off in the Curlin? I personally don't want him in the race for 2 reasons: 1) I hate to root against one of my favorite horses and that's what would happen here. I'm very confident in Fly Down. 2) I don't think he belongs with these horses yet; what has he shown that makes you think he does? I love the horse, so it's not that I don't think he's not talented.

I get it, it's just that I've never seen you not complain about a spot being too ambitious for a horse you like. There are no monsters in the Dandy. Fly Down? What's he done? Win the Peter Pan and run second in one of the worst Belmonts in history? A Little Warm is probably the best horse in the race and he has distance questions.

[Betsy]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I get it, it's just that I've never seen you not complain about a spot being too ambitious for a horse you like. There are no monsters in the Dandy. Fly Down? What's he done? Win the Peter Pan and run second in one of the worst Belmonts in history? A Little Warm is probably the best horse in the race and he has distance questions.

I posted here initially because I didn't like the idea of him being a rabbit for Fly Down, not because I thought he was overmatched.

In any case, I think Fly Down is the best horse and I am very confident in him; I've said from the beginning of the year that this was a a very good horse - the fact that the Belmont was a slow race does not change my mind about him one bit. I think you mean the Dwyer, not the Peter Pan.