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Old 07-21-2010, 04:56 PM
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Not good. Just hysterical and loud. I'm not even sure he "fooled" the White House as much as he took advantage of the fact that they're spineless and still seem to care what conservatives think about them, along with the fact that if anyone can try to drum up the idea that Obama being in the White House means that reverse racism is suddenly a huge epidemic, then that puts the White House in a bad spot because it leads to terrified people like Rupert and Joey running around hysterically worrying that their numero uno status is about to be taken away when Obama institutes (the inevitable, let's be honest) mandatory white slavery.

Have you ever seen him on TV? He commands attention based on sheer rudeness and volume level, while never managing to say anything of any import whatsoever.

He's about as big a lowlife as you're ever going to find.

I honestly dont know much about him... though having read about this situation, i will take your opinion on him.

I was just making a non-funny joke!
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Old 07-21-2010, 05:00 PM
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I was just making a non-funny joke!
lol, I know you were kidding

Just wanted to make sure that if you didn't know who he was, you got a good feel for what kind of loudmouth, dishonest, blowhard he was.

It's like this every time he's on TV.
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OK, saw more of the video, and I agree that the White House jumped the gun in firing her, probably saw the same edited footage that the rest of us did.

Fortunately Fox News has been running the complete story, along with a link to the complete video on their website, and Bill O'Reilly has dedicated his entire show so far to the issue.

Fair and balanced always wins in the end.

What's interesting is that since NBC, ABC and CBS did not cover the story on Monday, watching Fox was the only way to keep up with the story from the beginning -- and this one had way too many twists and turns.

A regrettable episode for all concerned. And yeah, if this all broke sooner, and was cleared up sooner, I would not have started this thread in the first place.
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OK, saw more of the video, and I agree that the White House jumped the gun in firing her, probably saw the same edited footage that the rest of us did.

Fortunately Fox News has been running the complete story, along with a link to the complete video on their website, and Bill O'Reilly has dedicated his entire show so far to the issue.

Fair and balanced always wins in the end.

What's interesting is that since NBC, ABC and CBS did not cover the story on Monday, watching Fox was the only way to keep up with the story from the beginning -- and this one had way too many twists and turns.

A regrettable episode for all concerned. And yeah, if this all broke sooner, and was cleared up sooner, I would not have started this thread in the first place.
Holy crap. The reason it was such an overblown and inaccurate story to begin with was because of Fox's crappy "reporting". Once again, the Obama administration capitulates and lets that complete joke of a news network lead them around with a leash.
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OK, saw more of the video, and I agree that the White House jumped the gun in firing her, probably saw the same edited footage that the rest of us did.

Fortunately Fox News has been running the complete story, along with a link to the complete video on their website, and Bill O'Reilly has dedicated his entire show so far to the issue.

Fair and balanced always wins in the end.

What's interesting is that since NBC, ABC and CBS did not cover the story on Monday, watching Fox was the only way to keep up with the story from the beginning -- and this one had way too many twists and turns.

A regrettable episode for all concerned. And yeah, if this all broke sooner, and was cleared up sooner, I would not have started this thread in the first place.

now, that is the funniest line i've read in some time. and maybe none of the other networks covered it early on because they were actually trying to find the whole story?? better to get it right then to get it fast.
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now, that is the funniest line i've read in some time. and maybe none of the other networks covered it early on because they were actually trying to find the whole story?? better to get it right then to get it fast.
Yea, nothing like a fair and balanced daylong smearing of a woman as a racist rather than a fair and balanced investigation into whether some blowhard, lying scumbag is lying.

Christ.
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lol, I know you were kidding

Just wanted to make sure that if you didn't know who he was, you got a good feel for what kind of loudmouth, dishonest, blowhard he was.

It's like this every time he's on TV.
I agree but I thought you like Obama. Glad you are coming around to my way of thinking
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I agree but I thought you like Obama. Glad you are coming around to my way of thinking
Not as clever as it may have seemed in your head.
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http://www.slate.com/id/2261271/

The Lynching of Shirley SherrodThe human price of indiscriminate politics.
By William Saletan
Posted Wednesday, July 21, 2010, at 7:38 PM ET

Twenty-four years ago, Shirley Sherrod helped Roger Spooner save his farm. She was black, and he was white, but they were more than that. They were two people working together to keep a South Georgia family on its land.

This week, they were flattened into a political cartoon. To score points in a fight between the Tea Party and the NAACP over which side is "racist," Sherrod and Spooner were caricatured: she as a black bigot, he as a white dupe. The nuances of their story were erased.


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The video never supported the accusation. It dealt with events 23 years before Sherrod's federal appointment. Nevertheless, it destroyed her. It was replayed everywhere. The NAACP denounced her. The USDA forced her to resign. Nobody asked her to explain herself or looked at her job performance to see whether she had practiced discrimination. The video was enough. The NAACP, having secured the right of all people to sit at the front of the bus, threw Sherrod under it. In his statement, NAACP President Ben Jealous claimed "she gave no indication she had attempted to right the wrong she had done" to Spooner.

But there were many indications that she had righted her wrong. The evidence was in the memories of Spooner and his wife and in the full video of Sherrod's speech, which the NAACP possessed but hadn't bothered to consult. The Spooners began to correct the record, explaining how Sherrod had followed up and saved their farm. Tuesday evening, the NAACP posted the full video of her speech, demonstrating that after Breitbart's excerpt ended, Sherrod had gone on to describe what she did for Spooner when his white lawyer failed to help:

"I spent time there in my office calling everybody I could think so to try to see—help me find the lawyer who would handle this. … Working with him made me see that it's really about those who have versus those who don't. You know—and they could be black, and they could be white. They could be Hispanic. And it made me realize then that I needed to work to help poor people. … God helped me to see that it's not just about black people. It's about poor people. … I've come to realize that we have to work together. … We have to get to the point, as Toni Morrison said, [where] race exists, but it doesn't matter."

These wise and moving words had been excised from the original clip. They gave the real context of Sherrod's remarks—what had happened 24 years ago between her and Spooner and what she had learned from it—not the fake political context in which, to Breitbart, she was just another weapon.





--i read that Sherrod may sue Breitbart. many times i think we are too litigious a society, but in this case, i hope she sues the pants off him.
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Old 07-22-2010, 09:11 PM
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--i read that Sherrod may sue Breitbart. many times i think we are too litigious a society, but in this case, i hope she sues the pants off him.

on what grounds? putting up a video cut but not altered?
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on what grounds? putting up a video cut but not altered?
it would be his comments on the video he selectively edited that would get him in trouble. if she can prove he knowingly misrepresented the content of her speech and prove damages (getting fired?), she might have a case.

i'm not sure what venue the case would be brought in or the specifics of libel law in that state but it's not outside the realm of possibility. libel cases are really tough to prove if you're a public figure. but she wasn't. at least until he dragged her through the mud.
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Old 07-22-2010, 09:53 PM
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on what grounds? putting up a video cut but not altered?
so, you read the article?
his actions resulted in her being fired, almost ruined. her reputation dragged thru the mud. then there are those who heard the initial story, but nothing since-so they assume the original story is correct.

breitbart didn't give a damn about the truth, all he cared about was trying to prove a point-her life be damned as far as he was concerned. i hope she sues him and wins huge.
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--i read that Sherrod may sue Breitbart. many times i think we are too litigious a society, but in this case, i hope she sues the pants off him.
Agree with that.
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I honestly dont know much about him... though having read about this situation, i will take your opinion on him.

I was just making a non-funny joke!
i haven't got a clue who breitbart is, or where he came from.
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Old 07-21-2010, 09:22 PM
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i haven't got a clue who breitbart is, or where he came from.
Remember the fake pimp and whore, hired to go Acorn office to Acorn office, until they got some tape they could edit to make Acorn look bad?

Same guy.
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Remember the fake pimp and whore, hired to go Acorn office to Acorn office, until they got some tape they could edit to make Acorn look bad?

Same guy.
not really. i couldn't pick him out in a lineup. is he on radio, tv?
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not really. i couldn't pick him out in a lineup. is he on radio, tv?

^^^^


Her pus.sy is ssssssssssssssso hot!!!!
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we need better, brighter folks in d.c. people who will get all the facts before a knee-jerk reaction. maybe vilsack should be resigning?
the naacp needs to do some house cleaning as well. they jumped in without checking all of it out too.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...rss=rss_nation

"The controversy surrounding her comments would create situations where her decisions, rightly or wrongly, would be called into question, making it difficult for her to bring jobs to Georgia," Vilsack said in a statement.


But in Sherrod's account, her firing was driven more by the exigencies of the news cycle -- and the administration's fear of conservative wrath. She said she was "harassed" to quit by USDA Deputy Undersecretary Cheryl Cook, who told her to "do it, because you're going to be on 'Glenn Beck' tonight." Sherrod added: "The administration was not interested in hearing the truth."

A video of the full speech -- which runs more than 45 minutes -- shows that Sherrod was trying to make a very different point from the one her critics saw in her inelegantly worded account of the episode with farmer Roger Spooner. An examination of her own prejudice, she said, taught her that "there is no difference between us."

"The only difference is the folks with money want to stay in power. It's always about money, y'all," she said. "God helped me to see that it's not just about black people. It's about poor people. I've come a long way."

Ultimately, she did help the farmer -- and on Tuesday, his family was among those who came to her defense. "She's a good friend. She helped us save our farm," Spooner's wife, Eloise, told CNN. "She's the one I give credit for helping us save our farm."

Sherrod laid some of the blame on the organization that had sponsored her speech. The NAACP, she told CNN, is "the reason this happened. They got into a fight with the tea party, and this all came out as a result of it."
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Remember the fake pimp and whore, hired to go Acorn office to Acorn office, until they got some tape they could edit to make Acorn look bad?

Same guy.
Make Acorn look bad?? Acorn was advising them on how they can fill out their tax forms on a prostitution ring of underaged illegal immigrant hookers. They weren't exactly manipulated into that. They could have told them, "We can't support an illegal enterprise. Get out of here before we call the cops."
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Make Acorn look bad?? Acorn was advising them on how they can fill out their tax forms on a prostitution ring of underaged illegal immigrant hookers. They weren't exactly manipulated into that. They could have told them, "We can't support an illegal enterprise. Get out of here before we call the cops."

if anyone wishes to call this breitbart fellow's work into question, he sounds as tho he's got no one to blame but himself.
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