7/24 (MTH): Lady's Secret S. feat. Rachel Alexandra

ateamstupid · #1 07-21-2010, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2

and yet people still criticize who Zenyatta runs against. I can find a trotter to beat this field.

You may find this hard to understand, but Rachel Alexandra's weak schedule this year doesn't, in any way, excuse or validate Zenyatta's equally pathetic campaign.

RockHardTen1985 · #2 07-21-2010, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You may find this hard to understand, but Rachel Alexandra's weak schedule this year doesn't, in any way, excuse or validate Zenyatta's pathetic campaign.

What do you not understand? Rachel and Z were supposed to run at Oaklawn, who showed up and cruised, payed workout and who was home?
I dont understand why this is such an argument, Z ran in the biggest race last year and showed up at Oaklawn.

ateamstupid · #3 07-21-2010, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

What do you not understand? Rachel and Z were supposed to run at Oaklawn, who showed up and cruised, payed workout and who was home?
I dont understand why this is such an argument, Z ran in the biggest race last year and showed up at Oaklawn.

Nice glasses.

RockHardTen1985 · #4 07-21-2010, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Nice glasses.

Its funny super fly mod, or whatever you call yourself. Its funny and typical of you, when you have nothing at all to say, no response, nothing intelligent. You then resort to taking cheap personal shots.

TitanSooner · #5 07-21-2010, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Its funny super fly mod, or whatever you call yourself. Its funny and typical of you, when you have nothing at all to say, no response, nothing intelligent. You then resort to taking cheap personal shots.

doh!

prudery · #6 07-21-2010, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You may find this hard to understand, but Rachel Alexandra's weak schedule this year doesn't, in any way, excuse or validate Zenyatta's equally pathetic campaign.

I do not believe anyone pointing out this fabricated race at Monmouth is looking to validate or excuse what you call Zenyatta's pathetic campaign .

Zenyatta could have been more ambitiously placed, but her campaign this year absolutely does trump Rachel's--and it remains a perfect score .

I can not see how that is difficult for you .

50 percent of Rachel's races have been tailored for her, and she has lost 2/3 of her efforts to date .

None of Zenyatta's races have been tailored for her, and they have been grade 1 races exclusively including handicaps .

Both mares have been running on easy street this year, but so far Rachel's has simply been the more pathetic course .

ateamstupid · #7 07-21-2010, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by prudery

I do not believe anyone pointing out this fabricated race at Monmouth is looking to validate or excuse what you call Zenyatta's pathetic campaign .

Zenyatta could have been more ambitiously placed, but her campaign this year absolutely does trump Rachel's--and it remains a perfect score .

I can not see how that is difficult for you .

50 percent of Rachel's races have been tailored for her, and she has lost 2/3 of her efforts to date .

None of Zenyatta's races have been tailored for her, and they have been grade 1 races exclusively including handicaps .

Both mares have been running on easy street this year, but so far Rachel's has simply been the more pathetic course .

You can't be serious. Every one of Zenyatta's efforts in rubberworld is "tailored" for her. She gets the same lousy class of mare every single time on the same dumbass surface. Their campaigns have been equally gutless, and if it's not exactly equal, it's a difference so small it's not worth arguing about.

My point, which you missed, was that it continues to be the Zenyatta fans who invoke the "other" horse in these discussions in a desperate need to validate their paper champion.

prudery · #8 07-21-2010, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You can't be serious. Every one of Zenyatta's efforts in rubberworld is "tailored" for her. She gets the same lousy class of mare every single time on the same dumbass surface. Their campaigns have been equally gutless, and if it's not exactly equal, it's a difference so small it's not worth arguing about.

My point, which you missed, was that it continues to be the Zenyatta fans who invoke the "other" horse in these discussions in a desperate need to validate their paper champion.

Clearly you missed my point--and a paper champion is an opinion.

None of Zenyatta's races have been tailored by her connections specifically, they have been filled by whatever horses would enter such races , knowing in advance when they are scheduled as well ...

I have no need to validate the horse I think is better by running down the other--et tu ???

Not .

ateamstupid · #9 07-21-2010, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by prudery

Clearly you missed my point--and a paper champion is an opinion.

None of Zenyatta's races have been tailored by her connections specifically, they have been filled by whatever horses would enter such races , knowing in advance when they are scheduled as well ...

I have no need to validate the horse I think is better by running down the other--et tu ???

Not .

Once again, I didn't bring Zenyatta up in this thread. It is always a Zenyattard who brings up the other horse.

And whether or not they're tailored to her specifically, the fields are still a joke and beneath her. Arguing who's had the "more" pathetic campaign is beyond lame. They're both being babied despite being "superstars".

#10 07-21-2010, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Once again, I didn't bring Zenyatta up in this thread. It is always a Zenyattard who brings up the other horse.

And whether or not they're tailored to her specifically, the fields are still a joke and beneath her. Arguing who's had the "more" pathetic campaign is beyond lame. They're both being babied despite being "superstars".

Settling for less is what present day America is all about.

Cannon Shell · #11 07-21-2010, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by prudery

I do not believe anyone pointing out this fabricated race at Monmouth is looking to validate or excuse what you call Zenyatta's pathetic campaign .

Zenyatta could have been more ambitiously placed, but her campaign this year absolutely does trump Rachel's--and it remains a perfect score .

I can not see how that is difficult for you .

50 percent of Rachel's races have been tailored for her, and she has lost 2/3 of her efforts to date .

None of Zenyatta's races have been tailored for her, and they have been grade 1 races exclusively including handicaps .

Both mares have been running on easy street this year, but so far Rachel's has simply been the more pathetic course .

I wouldnt be so quick to trumpet Zenyatta's handicap races as she hasnt been given a fair weight in at least a year.

You have to try very hard to find a softer path than Zenyatta has taken. But it looks like Ol Jess has accomplished that.

This field is a joke.

cakes44 · #12 07-21-2010, 06:10 PM

Is it okay if I believe Zenyatta is just pretty good with pu$$y connections AND Rachel's campaign this year is a complete joke, or do I have to take a side?

Danzig · #13 07-21-2010, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44

Is it okay if I believe Zenyatta is just pretty good with pu$$y connections AND Rachel's campaign this year is a complete joke, or do I have to take a side?

hope you don't mind company. this race is a joke. their campaigns this year are jokes.

randallscott35 · #14 07-21-2010, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I wouldnt be so quick to trumpet Zenyatta's handicap races as she hasnt been given a fair weight in at least a year.

You have to try very hard to find a softer path than Zenyatta has taken. But it looks like Ol Jess has accomplished that.

This field is a joke.

And how is that her ****ing fault Chuckie. Its worth 400k.

RockHardTen1985 · #15 07-21-2010, 06:12 PM

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And how is that her ****ing fault Chuckie. Its worth 400k.

Well the Whitney is in 2 weeks, the Del Cap was last weekend. What would have been wrong with either of those? O yes, the 10f and QR.

randallscott35 · #16 07-21-2010, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Well the Whitney is in 2 weeks, the Del Cap was last weekend. What would have been wrong with either of those? O yes, the 10f and QR.

Give me a break. She beat males and older males 3 times last year....She only regained her old form for the last race.

RockHardTen1985 · #17 07-21-2010, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Give me a break. She beat males and older males 3 times last year....She only regained her old form for the last race.

Zenyattas Classic, I agree it was not the best of the best, but it was TONS BETTER then anything Rachel faced in the Woodward.

Dahoss · #18 07-21-2010, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Well the Whitney is in 2 weeks, the Del Cap was last weekend. What would have been wrong with either of those? O yes, the 10f and QR.

Zenyatta could have run in these races also. The connections of both horses are ducking.

RockHardTen1985 · #19 07-21-2010, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

Zenyatta could have run in these races also. The connections of both horses are ducking.

Hmm, Zenyatta is running in and being pointed to Grade 1's. You dont see the difference?

DaTruth · #20 07-21-2010, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

Zenyatta could have run in these races also. The connections of both horses are ducking.

Yeah, but zenyatta still has to contend with the Rockies.