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Old 07-17-2010, 11:52 PM
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The gig is not exactly Jeff Lynne's solo tour for legendary musician's but a charity started in 1976 which had a 10 year anniversary at this show.

The Prince's Trust concert was highlighted by a memorable rendition of Harrison and Clapton doing the Beatles white album classic "While My Guitar Gently Weeps..." Ringo and Elton added a little superstar color, Jeff Lynne might have organized the janitors that night but your going to have look a little further for Lynne's superstar involvement at this show.
As I said, John Lennon was a big fan of Jeff Lynne. Geroge Harrison was such a big fan that he hired Lynne to produce some of his albums. A person has to have a great ear to be a good record producer.

I don't think this subject is even debatable. It is obviously somewhat subjective, but it's not totally subjective. For example, it's not debatable whether Paul McCartney is gifted. That's not subjective. If a person doesn't think Paul McCartney is great, that person doesn't know what they're talking about.

Who is better between John Lennon and Paul McCartney? Now that would be a subjective question. They are both great. They are two of the greatest singer/songwriters of all times. That's not debatable. Who is better between the two is a subjective question. But there is no doubt that they are both great.

I would say the same thing for all the artists and groups that have sold tens of millions of albums. I don't think there's a single one that's not great. The Eagles were great. Fleetwood Mac is great. Billy Joel is great. Elton John is great, etc.

There is a reason why these people all sold tens of millions of records. These people all have a talent that is extremely rare. There aren't a lot of Elton Johns out there. Each one of these people is one in a million. There are very few of them. These people have an amazing ear for music and they can write great melodies.

Jeff Lynne has sold tens of millions of albums and he is highly respected in the business by his peers. What is your musical background so that you not only think you have a better ear than the general public but a better ear than all the stars that have asked Jeff Lynne to produce their albums? Why would you think you have a better ear than everyone else? Do you have perfect pitch or something?
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Old 07-18-2010, 12:35 AM
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Jeff Lynne has sold tens of millions of albums and he is highly respected in the business by his peers. What is your musical background so that you not only think you have a better ear than the general public but a better ear than all the stars that have asked Jeff Lynne to produce their albums? Why would you think you have a better ear than everyone else? Do you have perfect pitch or something?[/quote]


......ahhhhhhh NO he hasn't sold tens of millions. This is my problem with this whole Jeff Lynne is a superstar mentality. Stop embelishing the facts...

Try this one....The link is every band with 50 million and more of sales. You won't find Jeff Lynne or ELO. Wikepedia isn't Gospel but it's not completely fiction either....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._music_artists

I think you should rewrite the Wiki piece they obviously missed your guy...
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Old 07-18-2010, 03:18 AM
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Jeff Lynne has sold tens of millions of albums and he is highly respected in the business by his peers. What is your musical background so that you not only think you have a better ear than the general public but a better ear than all the stars that have asked Jeff Lynne to produce their albums? Why would you think you have a better ear than everyone else? Do you have perfect pitch or something?

......ahhhhhhh NO he hasn't sold tens of millions. This is my problem with this whole Jeff Lynne is a superstar mentality. Stop embelishing the facts...

Try this one....The link is every band with 50 million and more of sales. You won't find Jeff Lynne or ELO. Wikepedia isn't Gospel but it's not completely fiction either....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._music_artists

I think you should rewrite the Wiki piece they obviously missed your guy...[/quote]

I never said that 50 million records was the magic number. But according to this wikipedia page, they did sell over 50 million records.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_Light_Orchestra
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Old 07-18-2010, 04:00 AM
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Jeff Lynne and the Beatles:

In 1994 Jeff Lynne was approached by the remaining three Beatles to help them produce their "new" songs and restore John Lennon's vocals from poorly-preserved mono tapes containing some unfinished Lennon demos that they were given by Yoko Ono. The songs were "Free as a Bird" and "Real Love". McCartney admitted he was worried about Lynne being chosen as producer saying "He's such a pal of George's. They'd done the Wilburys, and I was expecting him to lead it that way. To tell you the truth, I thought that he and George might create a wedge, saying, 'We're doing it this way' and I'd be pushed out."[3] "Free as a Bird" later won a Grammy.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Lynne_and_The_Beatles
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Old 07-18-2010, 05:37 AM
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Jeff Lynne and the Beatles:

In 1994 Jeff Lynne was approached by the remaining three Beatles to help them produce their "new" songs and restore John Lennon's vocals from poorly-preserved mono tapes containing some unfinished Lennon demos that they were given by Yoko Ono. The songs were "Free as a Bird" and "Real Love". McCartney admitted he was worried about Lynne being chosen as producer saying "He's such a pal of George's. They'd done the Wilburys, and I was expecting him to lead it that way. To tell you the truth, I thought that he and George might create a wedge, saying, 'We're doing it this way' and I'd be pushed out."[3] "Free as a Bird" later won a Grammy.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Lynne_and_The_Beatles

Next you'll have Jeff Lynne responsible for writing She Loves You....you say Lynne has sold tens of millions of albums, I show you 150 bands that dusted his sales.....
You respond to this with some lame paragraph about a Beatles song he produced using a Lennon demo performance from the 70's he never wrote, recorded or performed that won a Grammy for it's connection to other Fab Four songs. So this is how you argue a point, by never addressing the issue you created??

Let it go buddy, the band is barely north of sucking was outsold at a minimum by such musical giants as Ricky Martin (60 mil), The Village People (65 mil) and New Kids on the Block (70 mil) and just doesn't belong in the conversation of great bands. You like them and worship Lynne......some people get off on auditory route canal like this but please stop with the unreferenced garbage like Lynne was a central performer on stage with the Beatles at the 76' Prince's Trust concerts. No he wasn't......it's one thing to massage your upright base on stage and another to match Clapton's solo on Harrison's WMGGW's.......
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Old 07-18-2010, 06:20 AM
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I don't know about you,SportyFans,...but I'm beginning to believe Frumpton.
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Old 07-18-2010, 07:22 AM
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I don't know about you,SportyFans,...but I'm beginning to believe Frumpton.

As in Peter Frumpton boss??

You don't strike me as an ELO guy, .......maybe under the influence of the best elixir from True Blood with that vacant stare that Sookie's sista side kick has weekly when the vamps come round but not without the high test boss....
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Old 07-18-2010, 07:32 AM
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You have to be a serious a-hole to knock Jeff Lynne.
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Old 07-18-2010, 04:29 PM
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Next you'll have Jeff Lynne responsible for writing She Loves You....you say Lynne has sold tens of millions of albums, I show you 150 bands that dusted his sales.....
You respond to this with some lame paragraph about a Beatles song he produced using a Lennon demo performance from the 70's he never wrote, recorded or performed that won a Grammy for it's connection to other Fab Four songs. So this is how you argue a point, by never addressing the issue you created??

Let it go buddy, the band is barely north of sucking was outsold at a minimum by such musical giants as Ricky Martin (60 mil), The Village People (65 mil) and New Kids on the Block (70 mil) and just doesn't belong in the conversation of great bands. You like them and worship Lynne......some people get off on auditory route canal like this but please stop with the unreferenced garbage like Lynne was a central performer on stage with the Beatles at the 76' Prince's Trust concerts. No he wasn't......it's one thing to massage your upright base on stage and another to match Clapton's solo on Harrison's WMGGW's.......
This wikipedia page says they did sell over 50 million records:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_Light_Orchestra

My point about Lynne producing the Beatles was that they could have gotten anyone they wanted. They could have had anybody in the world and they chose Lynne. His reputation is second to none and that is why they chose him. He is considered to be a musical genius, which he is.
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Old 07-18-2010, 06:10 PM
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This wikipedia page says they did sell over 50 million records:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_Light_Orchestra

My point about Lynne producing the Beatles was that they could have gotten anyone they wanted. They could have had anybody in the world and they chose Lynne. His reputation is second to none and that is why they chose him. He is considered to be a musical genius, which he is.
Well said.
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