Vaccines are NOT safe for children

[Rupert Pupkin]

In general, I'm not big on vaccines. Based on everything I've read and the anecdotal stories I've heard, my guess is that some of these vaccines do more harm than good. However, some vaccines are very important. For example, I've heard it is very important to immunize horses with the West Nile vaccine.

It's not often that I would ask for Riot's opinion but she could probably shed some light on the importance of the West Nile Vaccine for horses.

I'm not so sure about some of the other vaccines. Most vets recommend giving your young pets one of those 6 in 1 vaccines that contain 6 different vaccines in one shot. The truth of the matter is that they don't know the long-term effects of these vaccines. If you give your puppy one of these vaccines and he ends up dying of cancer 10 years later, how can they tell if there is a link or not. It's possible that the vaccine could cause cancer many years later.

I don't belive in flu shots. I've never gotten a flu shot in my life and I never get the flu. The people I know that get flu shots seem to be the ones that end up getting the flu. And it is a fact that people sometimes have adverse reactions to these shots.

I guess it's all about risk/reward. But I think that people should do their own homework on these things. There are so many things that the government has told us are safe and then years later we find out that they're not safe. Let's take cell-phone use for example. There are tons of studies that say it is safe. But there are many other studies that say it is dangerous. I would rather be safe than sorry. I try to limit my cell-phone use.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I would rather be safe than sorry. I try to limit my cell-phone use.

Reading too many threads on Derbytrail will make you want to limit your internet use.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

In general, I'm not big on vaccines. Based on everything I've read and the anecdotal stories I've heard, my guess is that some of these vaccines do more harm than good. However, some vaccines are very important. For example, I've heard it is very important to immunize horses with the West Nile vaccine.

It's not often that I would ask for Riot's opinion but she could probably shed some light on the importance of the West Nile Vaccine for horses.

I'm not so sure about some of the other vaccines. Most vets recommend giving your young pets one of those 6 in 1 vaccines that contain 6 different vaccines in one shot. The truth of the matter is that they don't know the long-term effects of these vaccines. If you give your puppy one of these vaccines and he ends up dying of cancer 10 years later, how can they tell if there is a link or not. It's possible that the vaccine could cause cancer many years later.

I don't belive in flu shots. I've never gotten a flu shot in my life and I never get the flu. The people I know that get flu shots seem to be the ones that end up getting the flu. And it is a fact that people sometimes have adverse reactions to these shots.

I guess it's all about risk/reward. But I think that people should do their own homework on these things. There are so many things that the government has told us are safe and then years later we find out that they're not safe. Let's take cell-phone use for example. There are tons of studies that say it is safe. But there are many other studies that say it is dangerous. I would rather be safe than sorry. I try to limit my cell-phone use.

West Nile (the encephalities) - easy to prevent, appropriate to do so. In the past 20 years, we've spread just about every disease, everywhere, as we are such a nationally and internationally mobile society. So distance no longer protects as it used to.

I fully believe in aggressive appropriate immunization - and fully believe in not over-immunizing. Each animal (and human) is different. Pediatrics (human and animal) are different than adults, and than geriatrics. Vaccines differ in their efficacy. I use plain killed virus vaccines, modified live virus, bacterins, DNA-vectored, subunit vaccines, etc. They are all different, in how they work, what side effects are possible, etc. Vaccines are SO different from what they were 20 years ago, even 8-5 years ago. Much improved. Not alot to fear, nowadays, really. Diseases vary in their morbidity and mortality. Protect those that need it, from that which you can and should. I've never been a fan of "one size fits all" for immunization schedules, and I absolutely do not believe in vaccinating just because some drug company made a vaccine and is looking for a market.

PS - as it stands now, you are right on the phone