No Cal Racing Wednesday

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Alan07

Hollywood Park has cancelled its live racing program for Thursday July 8, because of insufficient entries, the third day of racing lost under such circumstances at the spring-summer meeting.

http://www.drf.com/news/article/114508.html

An ominous sign for?

A. California Horse racing
B. The state of the California economy
C. The state of horse racing
D. All of the above

[philcski]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

An ominous sign for?

A. California Horse racing
B. The state of the California economy
C. The state of horse racing
D. All of the above

Just A IMO.

There just isn't enough horses based in SoCal to run 5 days a week.

[Honu]

If they were smart and they arent they would just run 3 days a week....add a day here and there for holidays and such.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Honu

If they were smart and they arent they would just run 3 days a week....add a day here and there for holidays and such.

While I do think that would help, wonder how many people would drop out of the the game?

How do you pay the bills for 7 day a week training when there are 26 or so races run?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

While I do think that would help, wonder how many people would drop out of the the game?

How do you pay the bills for 7 day a week training when there are 26 or so races run?

I'm not sure I follow the logic? If they dropped a few days they could run more races on the days that they did run. And since they seem to be having trouble with filling races wouldnt reducing the number of races seem logical? How many horses that want to run arent getting a chance to?

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I'm not sure I follow the logic? If they dropped a few days they could run more races on the days that they did run. And since they seem to be having trouble with filling races wouldnt reducing the number of races seem logical? How many horses that want to run arent getting a chance to?

They can run right now about 32-38 races a week. I dont see how dropping days and running 12-12-12 does anything for anyone, it would be a wash.

If they did sat and sun and ran 16....you would still not see full fields for very long as everyone would be gone.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

While I do think that would help, wonder how many people would drop out of the the game?

How do you pay the bills for 7 day a week training when there are 26 or so races run?

You take the money from the other two days of racing and pump up the purses and most likely you could fill more than 9 races a day.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Honu

You take the money from the other two days of racing and pump up the purses and most likely you could fill more than 9 races a day.

Dont see it......not sure that will do all that much for handle, it would help but so they go from 8 mil to 10 mil handle. They dont have the margin for a Monmouth type growth.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Dont see it......not sure that will do all that much for handle, it would help but so they go from 8 mil to 10 mil handle. They dont have the margin for a Monmouth type growth.

Well the only way to find out is try it.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by philcski

Just A IMO.

There just isn't enough horses based in SoCal to run 5 days a week.

obvious

why?

[philcski]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

obvious

why?

I don't know for sure. Probably the cost of stabling a horse in California, the surface issues, and no opportunity to poach runners from other circuits since they're basically on an island. People are still betting the product which means there could still be life.

If I were a trainer, though, that's where I'd want to be (if they went back to dirt.)

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by philcski

I don't know for sure. Probably the cost of stabling a horse in California, the surface issues, and no opportunity to poach runners from other circuits since they're basically on an island. People are still betting the product which means there could still be life.

If I were a trainer, though, that's where I'd want to be (if they went back to dirt.)

They have always been an island.

The reason the model does not work if you are an owner is the cost, the gov in socal has some many regulations to meet the cost is ridiculous, its not the labor.

There is very little incentive to me to have a big stable in socal. People still bet the brand name.

Dirt or no dirt has little affect on this, problem started about 1990ish.