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Old 06-29-2010, 05:35 PM
RockHardTen1985 RockHardTen1985 is offline
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Pumpkin, they vote at the end of the year. I don't give a flying clod of dirt who's "ahead" right now unless it's the big prize cuz I just don't care to waste brain cells on it. My point was everyone's obsessed about HOY and they don't even think that you could have a situation where *gasp* Zenyatta only gets Older Mare and the reigning HOY gets nothing, or Rachel soars to her old self and Zenyatta's return (following her not getting HOY for 2009) not only doesn't gain her the big prize, she doesn't get squat.

RA's just now getting herself in gear. She's perfectly capable of earning an Eclipse with sterling performances the rest of the year. There are prizes to be had in the fall that would make everybody go 'New Orleans Ladies what now?'
I think what you said is very realistic... Z get older male and someone else gets HOY... Blame at this point is far ahead of Rachel and Z for HOY.
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Old 06-29-2010, 05:45 PM
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I think what you said is very realistic... Z get older male and someone else gets HOY... Blame at this point is far ahead of Rachel and Z for HOY.
I feel you are very passionate about this point of view RockHardTen. I'm not going to argue with you about the fact that someone other than Zenyatta would get HOY if the awards were given out right now - but there is no way that Blame is far ahead or even ahead of Zenyatta at this point for HOY award.

With all the West Coast on Zenyatta's bandwagon and with her recent thriller "accomplishment" of 17 races in a row Blame winning more votes than Zenyyata is hard for me to believe.

Blame does not earn more votes than Zenyatta if the award is handed out today...
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Old 06-29-2010, 05:47 PM
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I feel you are very passionate about this point of view RockHardTen. I'm not going to argue with you about the fact that someone other than Zenyatta would get HOY if the awards were given out right now - but there is no way that Blame is far ahead or even ahead of Zenyatta at this point for HOY award.

With all the West Coast on Zenyatta's bandwagon and with her recent thriller "accomplishment" of 17 races in a row Blame winning more votes than Zenyyata is hard for me to believe.

Blame does not earn more votes than Zenyatta if the award is handed out today...
Blame is 2/2 with a G1 on dirt vs older males... That does it for me. I think Z would have won the Foster had she shown up though.
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Old 06-29-2010, 05:48 PM
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I think what you said is very realistic... Z get older male and someone else gets HOY... Blame at this point is far ahead of Rachel and Z for HOY.
I just feel there's so much to know and see before the BC. It could all shift radically, becoming very clear or even more confusing. I hate to get too wrapped up in making a decision about where anybody stands. It's like asking who's gonna win the Derby in January and the 2yo champ's not even gotten in gear yet to give you something to think about. We're all driving on gas fumes here. Gotta get some more evidence. Only half the year is up.
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Old 06-29-2010, 05:51 PM
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I just feel there's so much to know and see before the BC. It could all shift radically, becoming very clear or even more confusing. I hate to get too wrapped up in making a decision about where anybody stands. It's like asking who's gonna win the Derby in January and the 2yo champ's not even gotten in gear yet to give you something to think about. We're all driving on gas fumes here. Gotta get some more evidence. Only half the year is up.
I agree.
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Old 06-30-2010, 02:26 PM
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Gotta get some more evidence. Only half the year is up.
Agreed. There is a lot of history to be written.
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