Michelle Calls Barack a "Kenyan"

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Riot

For those with Obama Derangement Syndrome it will obviously be an easy vote for "anyone but".

That's not the majority of the US. It's a most obvious minority. And a statistical minority (southern, white, ultra conservative, rural etc) that is literally getting less numerous as the years go by. The election, as always, will be decided by those in the middle.

Again: who can beat him? It's mid-2010, where are the candidates? Name one remotely viable GOP candidate - especially since the 2012 GOP Convention will be in Tampa.

BTW, this week several GOP congressional candidates for this fall are having BP-sponsored fundraisers. Nothing like advertising you are sucking down BP oil money, in the midst of the greatest environmental disaster ever.

Obama didn't even beat McCain that easily. I think he beat him by about 6 percentage points. And that was when Obama was popular.

Obama's numbers are in the toilet right now. His approval rating is around 43%. If the election were tomorrow, Obama would have practically no chance of winning. His only chance would be if there was a 3rd party candidate that took votes away from the Republican candidate. Other than that, Obama would have practically no chance right now.

I would be saying the same thing right now, no matter who the President was and no matter what party they were in. A President with a 43% approval rating cannot win an election. It's basically impossible. That doesn't mean Obama can't win in 2 1/2 years from now. A lot can change in 2 1/2 years. Maybe his numbers will go up. But if the election were tomorrow, he would have no chance. Anybody could beat him right now.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Obama didn't even beat McCain that easily. I think he beat him by about 6 percentage points. And that was when Obama was popular.

Obama's numbers are in the toilet right now. His approval rating is around 43%. If the election were tomorrow, Obama would have practically no chance of winning. His only chance would be if there was a 3rd party candidate that took votes away from the Republican candidate. Other than that, Obama would have practically no chance right now.

I would be saying the same thing right now, no matter who the President was and no matter what party they were in. A President with a 43% approval rating cannot win an election. It's basically impossible. That doesn't mean Obama can't win in 2 1/2 years from now. A lot can change in 2 1/2 years. Maybe his numbers will go up. But if the election were tomorrow, he would have no chance. Anybody could beat him right now.

Obama's approval numbers are low now, yes. But look at the Dem vs GOP numbers - the GOP is still at the bottom. The views on the GOP positive for dealing with issues is still lower than the Dems, very low.

For a GOP vs Dem congress this fall, right now the GOP only barely wins by 2% points.

So people are unhappy with the Dems, but the GOP isn't winning any new friends and isn't above them, they are below them. Remember alot of people unhappy with the Dems are progressives that feel this administration is too conservative (healthcare was 'way too conservative for many on the left)

And still the public says that Obama inherited the mess 40% versus "it's his" 27%

So I don't see where "any" GOP candidate could beat Obama at all, right now, today. Too much baggage, too far to the right to appeal to any center, which decides the election. Reagan won on the center, not the base. The people who are voting GOP say they do so "primarily to cut government spending" - yet Bush took us from surplus to massive deficit, started two wars, etc. People know that.

Again: name a GOP candidate, guys. Who could do it?

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Obama's approval numbers are low now, yes. But look at the Dem vs GOP numbers - the GOP is still at the bottom. The views on the GOP positive for dealing with issues is still lower than the Dems, very low.

For a GOP vs Dem congress this fall, right now the GOP only barely wins by 2% points.

So people are unhappy with the Dems, but the GOP isn't winning any new friends and isn't above them, they are below them. Remember alot of people unhappy with the Dems are progressives that feel this administration is too conservative (healthcare was 'way too conservative for many on the left)

And still the public says that Obama inherited the mess 40% versus "it's his" 27%

So I don't see where "any" GOP candidate could beat Obama at all, right now, today. Too much baggage, too far to the right to appeal to any center, which decides the election. Reagan won on the center, not the base. The people who are voting GOP say they do so "primarily to cut government spending" - yet Bush took us from surplus to massive deficit, started two wars, etc. People know that.

Again: name a GOP candidate, guys. Who could do it?

Clinton "cooked the books"! If you don't know THAT, further comments are unecessary!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Clinton "cooked the books"! If you don't know THAT, further comments are unecessary!

The books can be cooked to all the extent your imaginograph wants them to be, yet Bush still added trillions to that. Cold fact, can't change it.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Clinton "cooked the books"! If you don't know THAT, further comments are unecessary!

For all the crap he gets, much deserved, Clinton was an excellent President, bad husband and brilliant Statesman.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by GBBob

For all the crap he gets, much deserved, Clinton was an excellent President, bad husband and brilliant Statesman.

er blackhawk down ..could have taken out bin laden ..emm

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

er blackhawk down ..could have taken out bin laden ..emm

You can second guess a lot of things on both sides..that's easy

[Honu]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

er blackhawk down ..could have taken out bin laden ..emm

He had a great smile and he sure made people feel at home.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by Honu

He had a great smile and he sure made people feel at home.

cant argue that..

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by GBBob

For all the crap he gets, much deserved, Clinton was an excellent President, bad husband and brilliant Statesman.

I know you guys will hate me for saying this, but Newt and the GOP congress made Clinton's presidency. He was heading down the wrong path (like Obama) until the Midterm elections and the GOP took congress.. Clinton went along with their idea's like they were his own. He figured out the best way to govern was from the center.

Clinton did a good job fiscally.. and he got to ride the .com wave.. but he completely screwed us by doing absolutely nothing about bin Laden, eventhough bin Laden carried out many attacks on the US (not really on our soil - but USS Cole and Kenya Embassy bombing, and many others).

If Clinton hadnt been such a freeking pu$$y, he could have created much disruption for bin Laden and his gang before 9/11 to happen.

The only time he did anything about it is when his impeachment hearing was going, and most believed he did some bombing just to take attention off that.

Its still a sad thing when Clinton was the best Pres of the past 20 years. (Ronnie blew him outta the water as far as Presidents go, though)

[Smooth Operator]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Its still a sad thing when Clinton was the best Pres of the past 20 years. (Ronnie blew him outta the water as far as Presidents go, though)

LMAO




Ah ... thanks ... REALLY needed a good belly laugh this morning.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

LMAO




Ah ... thanks ... REALLY needed a good belly laugh this morning.

considering it was you that replied.. it makes me feel much more confident in my opinion, Mr. "Goldielocks didnt want to try the beasts in the BCC"

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

LMAO




Ah ... thanks ... REALLY needed a good belly laugh this morning.

You think Clinton will go down in history as a better President than Reagan? Have you been drinking today?

Originally Posted by Riot

Again: name a GOP candidate, guys. Who could do it?

If the downward trend continues it will be Romney. He "fixed" the Winter Olympics.

[Riot]

I think Romney is the only possible top of the ticket right now.

Originally Posted by Riot

I think Romney is the only possible top of the ticket right now.

Agreed.

[Honu]

Yep inherited a mess thats for sure ...has no clue what to do that is for sure also. How can a guy who has never led anybody or done anything but sign up voters have a clue how to run a country? Its not his fault , its his handlers you know Gearoge Soros and Ayres who takes credit for one of Obama's books. His handlers had over expectations and really had he came into power in a less hard time he might have had a chance like Bill Clinton did. His "vision" is not on track with most of America and thats ok everyone makes mistakes, and his was thinking he had enough knowledge or understanding of the American people to lead them and achieve their goals.
The guy has given a man named Cass Sunstein a regulatory position , you know the guy who thinks animals should have lawyers and that its perfectly fine to manipulate the American people to come around to the governments way of thinking , its called a nudge.
Im thinking America is wising up to the fact that they have no real leader who is not respected by most world governments. You know most world leaders thought it was pretty crappy for Obama to dis his own country while in the country of others , just sayin.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Honu

Yep inherited a mess thats for sure ...has no clue what to do that is for sure also. How can a guy who has never led anybody or done anything but sign up voters have a clue how to run a country? Its not his fault , its his handlers you know Gearoge Soros and Ayres who takes credit for one of Obama's books. His handlers had over expectations and really had he came into power in a less hard time he might have had a chance like Bill Clinton did. His "vision" is not on track with most of America and thats ok everyone makes mistakes, and his was thinking he had enough knowledge or understanding of the American people to lead them and achieve their goals.
The guy has given a man named Cass Sunstein a regulatory position , you know the guy who thinks animals should have lawyers and that its perfectly fine to manipulate the American people to come around to the governments way of thinking , its called a nudge.
Im thinking America is wising up to the fact that they have no real leader who is not respected by most world governments. You know most world leaders thought it was pretty crappy for Obama to dis his own country while in the country of others , just sayin.

I'm not sure saying that maybe the US isn't always right equals dissing his own country. I'm glad he "apoligized"..even though he didn't..for all the sh*t Bush did.

[Honu]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I'm not sure saying that maybe the US isn't always right equals dissing his own country. I'm glad he "apoligized"..even though he didn't..for all the sh*t Bush did.

Im just saying what I have read on line concerning other world leaders, found it in very bad taste for him to go around the world saying crap about his own country ....say it from home amongst the homeys and it doesnt look as bad.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Honu

Im just saying what I have read on line concerning other wolrd leaders, found it in very bad taste for him to gio around the world saying crap about his own country ....say it from home amongst the homeys and it doesnt look as bad.

Honest Honu..I'm not sure where all these World leaders are who found it distasteful..unless Glenn Beck and Rush are World leaders. The US likes to think we are better than other countries and that's wrong. Bush ignored the World and World issues and Obama attempted to reconcile that and rightly so. The right would rather be isolationists and screw everyone else.