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Old 06-21-2010, 12:19 AM
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LOL I'm so glad that after the "truthers" got lumped in with the left in general, that the "birthers" have their place on the right....only the mainstream right seems to embrace them, whereas the mainstream left wants nothing to do with the "truthers."

Keep at it Rupert....this is definitely where you want to hit from a credibility standpoint...you've got lots on your side here.

No, really. PLEASE keep at it. Really. Please!
You would have to be a fool to not at least have some doubt about where he was born. He refuses to show his birth certificate. Not only that, he is spending millions of dollars on lawyers to keep his birth certificate hidden. In addition, there are all kinds of records that could shed light on where he was born that he refuses to release.

There is no evidence that he was born in Hawaii. There is none. If you choose to believe that he was born there just because that is the mainstream opinion, that is fine with me. I'm sure you would have been one of the guys that argued the Earth was flat even after evidence started to come out that it was round.

At least I can give you guys reasons why I think he wasn't born in Hawaii. I have yet to hear any reasons as to why you guys think he was born in Hawaii. All you can say is that "birthers are crazy" and that type of thing but you don't have any evidence to support your point of view.
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Old 06-21-2010, 06:15 AM
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama...ertificate.asp

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Old 06-21-2010, 06:40 AM
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So?...

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Old 06-21-2010, 07:19 AM
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So?...

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thing is, i've posted that link before to snopes...yet this keeps coming up. it's ridiculous. i'm no barack fan, but this is ridiculous. his critics need to stick to legitimate grievances.
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Old 06-21-2010, 07:20 AM
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'Edit: actually, sounds delusionally crazy'

pot=kettle

mrs prez having a great time saving the fat kids and getting front row at game 7 of the nba finals..what oil?

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Old 06-21-2010, 08:57 AM
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Lol, that's always my favorite part of it all -- that in this wild conspiracy theory we'd have to be "fools" to not at least think about, we are being asked to believe that this giant master plan to infiltrate the Presidency of the United States with a non-American started in 1961!

They knew this would be happening nearly 50 years later, so they had that bit run in the newspaper, likely to just cover all their bases in case 50 years down the road, their child who was not born in the United States was capable enough to get himself elected President.

Yes. Yes. The true fools are the ones who think that's ridiculous.
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Old 06-21-2010, 12:34 PM
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Everyone knows about The Ceritification of Live Birth. That does not prove he was born in Hawaii. The Certification of Live Birth was available to children not born in Hawaii.

I do consider the newspaper announcements to be fairly compelling evidence that he was in fact born in Hawaii. I think that is pretty strong evidence.

In terms of a few people saying that they have seen the born cetificate, I am somewhat skeptical. I'm not saying that it's not true. I'm just saying that I'm skeptical. It is conceivably that they could be lying.

If they really had the birth certificate, I would certainly think they would just release it rather than spending millions of dollars on lawyers to fight its release. That is hardly a crazy opinion.
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Old 06-21-2010, 12:42 PM
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If they really had the birth certificate, I would certainly think they would just release it rather than spending millions of dollars on lawyers to fight its release. That is hardly a crazy opinion.
I think that for all his shortcomings, Obama is certainly smarter than this.

It's certainly in his own best interests to let this controversy continue to stir, because nobody really takes it seriously, and those claiming he's a foreigner just look like absolute nuts...like literally crazy people.

So if he doesn't release the birth certificate, all the birthers get to continue to make fools of themselves while convincing a grand sum of zero people that they are correct, and those who continue to look like fools are just a bunch of folks frothing at the mouth over something that is laughable at best -- and that's if we're being generous.
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Old 06-21-2010, 12:52 PM
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I think that for all his shortcomings, Obama is certainly smarter than this.

It's certainly in his own best interests to let this controversy continue to stir, because nobody really takes it seriously, and those claiming he's a foreigner just look like absolute nuts...like literally crazy people.

So if he doesn't release the birth certificate, all the birthers get to continue to make fools of themselves while convincing a grand sum of zero people that they are correct, and those who continue to look like fools are just a bunch of folks frothing at the mouth over something that is laughable at best -- and that's if we're being generous.
I think you are absolutely correct. It serves as a smokescreen and diversion for his agenda and allows....like literally this crazy statement to be put out showing more concern for illegal's wages than upholding American laws.

http://www.thefoxnation.com/illegal-...ght-fair-wages
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Old 06-21-2010, 01:46 PM
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I think that for all his shortcomings, Obama is certainly smarter than this.

It's certainly in his own best interests to let this controversy continue to stir, because nobody really takes it seriously, and those claiming he's a foreigner just look like absolute nuts...like literally crazy people.

So if he doesn't release the birth certificate, all the birthers get to continue to make fools of themselves while convincing a grand sum of zero people that they are correct, and those who continue to look like fools are just a bunch of folks frothing at the mouth over something that is laughable at best -- and that's if we're being generous.
I find that to be an extremely far-fetched argument. Is it possible? Yes, it is certainly possible but it is extremely far-fetched in my view. This is not one of those cases where all publicity is good publicity. Bad publicity is bad publicity, period. And you are way off the mark if you think that it's only far-right wackos that have questions about where he was born.

Polls they have done show that a majority of Americans say he should release his birth certificate. If he doesn't release it, it just makes it look like he is hiding something. Nobody likes that. Everybody likes transparency.

I know that you guys know most of the facts of this case but most of the people out there that think this whole thing is a non-issue don't even know the facts. Most of those people think that his birth-ceritificate has already been released because that was what the mainstream media reported.
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Old 06-21-2010, 02:14 PM
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Polls they have done show that a majority of Americans say he should release his birth certificate. If he doesn't release it, it just makes it look like he is hiding something. Nobody likes that. Everybody likes transparency.

I know that you guys know most of the facts of this case but most of the people out there that think this whole thing is a non-issue don't even know the facts. Most of those people think that his birth-ceritificate has already been released because that was what the mainstream media reported.
Well, let's say that he's not an American, and that's what he's hiding.

If that's the case, this was the best plan in all of history -- and I mean ALL of history. To take a Black boy born in 1961, three years before the Civil Rights Act of 1964, come up with the awesome idea that this foreigner of color would 50 years later be able to infiltrate the United States government by passing as a citizen, and deciding that in lieu of any actual proof that they may need to show, they would put a congratulations to themselves in the paper just in case they needed an alibi 50 years later.

Mind you, this child then had to have the aptitude to go graduate law school, become an excellent public speaker, win elections....and they foresaw all of this 50 years in advance in a country where Blacks at the time still didn't even have full and equal rights.

Really?

How can such a wingnut theory be anything *but* a non-issue? Are you kidding me? If that's the case, the f*cking guy deserves to be President anyway because of the sheer amazing power of awesome that it took to hatch that plan over the course of 50 years, and the brilliance of his parents/keepers/masterminds who had the ability to choose the *one* child who would be able to fulfill this plan, and make a newspaper announcement about his birth to quell the inevitable questions five decades later.

Yes. You're right Rupert, the real fools in this situation are the ones who don't ask to see his birth certificate. You got us there, because they've made fools of us with the most awesome plan in the history of the universe. This is like the Trojan Horse on 50-year steroids. FFS.
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Old 06-21-2010, 03:27 PM
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Well, let's say that he's not an American, and that's what he's hiding.

If that's the case, this was the best plan in all of history -- and I mean ALL of history. To take a Black boy born in 1961, three years before the Civil Rights Act of 1964, come up with the awesome idea that this foreigner of color would 50 years later be able to infiltrate the United States government by passing as a citizen, and deciding that in lieu of any actual proof that they may need to show, they would put a congratulations to themselves in the paper just in case they needed an alibi 50 years later.

Mind you, this child then had to have the aptitude to go graduate law school, become an excellent public speaker, win elections....and they foresaw all of this 50 years in advance in a country where Blacks at the time still didn't even have full and equal rights.

Really?

How can such a wingnut theory be anything *but* a non-issue? Are you kidding me? If that's the case, the f*cking guy deserves to be President anyway because of the sheer amazing power of awesome that it took to hatch that plan over the course of 50 years, and the brilliance of his parents/keepers/masterminds who had the ability to choose the *one* child who would be able to fulfill this plan, and make a newspaper announcement about his birth to quell the inevitable questions five decades later.

Yes. You're right Rupert, the real fools in this situation are the ones who don't ask to see his birth certificate. You got us there, because they've made fools of us with the most awesome plan in the history of the universe. This is like the Trojan Horse on 50-year steroids. FFS.
Who are you arguing with? I don't know a single person in the world that thinks this was a vast conspiracy that started 50 years ago. Whoever said that?

I don't know the explanation for the newspaper announcement of his birth. Has it been authenticated? If it has, then I could come up with another argument as to why they made the announcement. Maybe his mom wanted people to think he was born in Hawaii so that he would immediately, automatically be a US citizen. Nobody is claiming that the announcement (assuming the announcemt was authentic) was put in the paper in case he ever wanted to run for President 50 years later. That is absurd.
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Old 06-21-2010, 04:03 PM
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Are you aware that snopes.com can't seem to make up their mind about what hospital Obama was born at.

"News sites swap Obama's birthplace like magic
UPI, Snopes change location within hours of WND report"

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=us

There is nothing fishy about that.

I forgot to mention that Obama's aunt said that he was born in Kenya. I'm sure all these things are just a coincidence. I'm sure he was born in Hawaii.
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I should probably start another thread so this doesn't get lost, but from watching more interviews, I've come to have legitimate questions about whether Sarah Palin is a human.

I have several good reasons to question whether she's a human, and in fact believe that she is a Terrortron 4000 series robot, and that beneath her synthetic, but very real looking skin, there is little more than a series of malleable metal rods that have been formed in the shape of a human being.

I believe that the onus is on Sarah Palin to prove to me that she is, in fact, a human being and not a robot, and I look forward to your help in getting to the bottom of this, Rupert, as if you've taught me one thing today, it's that all questions, no matter how absurd, should be treated as though they are entirely legitimate. I think that as a potential presidential candidate in two years that I have a right to know whether a robot that cries tears of oil and WD-40 could possibly be elected President of this great country of ours, and it is her job, and hers alone, to prove this claim wrong.
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Old 06-21-2010, 04:13 PM
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I should probably start another thread so this doesn't get lost, but from watching more interviews, I've come to have legitimate questions about whether Sarah Palin is a human.

I have several good reasons to question whether she's a human, and in fact believe that she is a Terrortron 4000 series robot, and that beneath her synthetic, but very real looking skin, there is little more than a series of malleable metal rods that have been formed in the shape of a human being.

I believe that the onus is on Sarah Palin to prove to me that she is, in fact, a human being and not a robot, and I look forward to your help in getting to the bottom of this, Rupert, as if you've taught me one thing today, it's that all questions, no matter how absurd, should be treated as though they are entirely legitimate. I think that as a potential presidential candidate in two years that I have a right to know whether a robot that cries tears of oil and WD-40 could possibly be elected President of this great country of ours, and it is her job, and hers alone, to prove this claim wrong.
Good point!
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I should probably start another thread so this doesn't get lost, but from watching more interviews, I've come to have legitimate questions about whether Sarah Palin is a human.

I have several good reasons to question whether she's a human, and in fact believe that she is a Terrortron 4000 series robot, and that beneath her synthetic, but very real looking skin, there is little more than a series of malleable metal rods that have been formed in the shape of a human being.

I believe that the onus is on Sarah Palin to prove to me that she is, in fact, a human being and not a robot, and I look forward to your help in getting to the bottom of this, Rupert, as if you've taught me one thing today, it's that all questions, no matter how absurd, should be treated as though they are entirely legitimate. I think that as a potential presidential candidate in two years that I have a right to know whether a robot that cries tears of oil and WD-40 could possibly be elected President of this great country of ours, and it is her job, and hers alone, to prove this claim wrong.
somebody should definately check her birth certifi...errr.. Warranty!!
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Maybe his mom listed his race as white on the original and that would cost him most of his 'street cred'?
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Maybe his mom listed his race as white on the original and that would cost him most of his 'street cred'?
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"Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama was very adamant that her grandson, Senator Barack Hussein Obama, was born in Kenya, and that she was present and witnessed his birth in Kenya, not the United States," Shuhubia continued in the affidavit.

"During the conversation, Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama never changed her reply that she was indeed present when Senator Barack Obama was born in Kenya," Shuhubia insisted in the affidavit.

"The affidavit documents that President Obama's step-grandmother was asked the questions several times, both in her native language, Swahili, and in English, and that the Anabaptists conducting the interview were confident she understood clearly the questions that were asked."

I can't figure out why anyone would think Obama might have been born in Kenya. It is so strange.

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To hell with warranty, what's the return policy?!?!
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