Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Main Forum > The Paddock
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-13-2010, 09:45 AM
Merlinsky Merlinsky is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,049
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin View Post
The more a jock asks a horse, the harder they're going to run. The harder a horse runs, the more it's going to take out of them.
That misses the point. If a horse tries to run as hard as they can and the jock won't let them, that takes plenty of energy. Rachel doesn't need to be asked for more to try to give it. How many horses have we seen get rank in a race, a jockey's tugging hard to keep them back, and by the time they're ready to go they're too worn out from trying to bust loose? It happens frequently.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-13-2010, 09:50 AM
Travis Stone's Avatar
Travis Stone Travis Stone is offline
Oaklawn
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 2,229
Default

One of the most overrated things in horse racing is that horses who win "under wraps" or win "without urging" or are "ridden out" are putting a meaningful amount of energy in reserve for next time.

An exception would be Rachel Alexandra in the FG Oaks, she was noticeably slowing down to a gallop. That stretch drive versus her stretch drive yesterday are two different things.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-13-2010, 07:24 PM
Rupert Pupkin Rupert Pupkin is offline
Del Mar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,102
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Merlinsky View Post
That misses the point. If a horse tries to run as hard as they can and the jock won't let them, that takes plenty of energy. Rachel doesn't need to be asked for more to try to give it. How many horses have we seen get rank in a race, a jockey's tugging hard to keep them back, and by the time they're ready to go they're too worn out from trying to bust loose? It happens frequently.
When a horse is rank, that is totally different. If you have a horse throwing their head in the air and the jock is fighting them, that is not a good thing at all. That will tire a horse out. That is a totally different situation than a jock gearing a horse down the final 1/16th of a mile.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-16-2010, 01:05 AM
chucklestheclown chucklestheclown is offline
Fairgrounds
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 1,562
Default

Who would argue that?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-17-2010, 03:35 AM
chucklestheclown chucklestheclown is offline
Fairgrounds
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 1,562
Default

I am thinking of claiming a gelding at Philly and renaming him "Bobbittdidit" and giving him to PETA immediately after his first win
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:00 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.