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Old 06-12-2010, 09:15 PM
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Rupert..fortunately, that is your opinion and it's the right one. But I know you are worldly, or at least know that the South isn't as much, to realize that ain't what happens out there. If you are born Black in the US you will be proving yourself the whole way...obviously it doesn't mean you won't be a success...whatever that means...but you will NEVER be given the free pass that whities are.
I can't pretend to know exactly what things are like in the South. I have never lived there. I have lived in Los Angeles my whole life.

I'm sure every state is a little different and race may play more of a role in certain states, but overall I think everyone has a fair shake right now in the US.

I have a question for you. Do you think being half-black helped Obama or hurt him? All things being the same, do you think he would have gotten more votes or less votes if he was white?
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Old 06-12-2010, 10:00 PM
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I can't pretend to know exactly what things are like in the South. I have never lived there. I have lived in Los Angeles my whole life.

I'm sure every state is a little different and race may play more of a role in certain states, but overall I think everyone has a fair shake right now in the US.

I have a question for you. Do you think being half-black helped Obama or hurt him? All things being the same, do you think he would have gotten more votes or less votes if he was white?
That's a fair question. Look..I liked Obama before anyone had heard of him and I still do. I think a Liberal wins that election unless his name is Dukakais. But the only reason he may have got more votes because he was black is because he actually got blacks to get out and vote. But isn't that the point?
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Old 06-12-2010, 10:12 PM
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That's a fair question. Look..I liked Obama before anyone had heard of him and I still do. I think a Liberal wins that election unless his name is Dukakais. But the only reason he may have got more votes because he was black is because he actually got blacks to get out and vote. But isn't that the point?
I think being black helped him overall. It may have cost him some votes in the south but I think it really helped him with young people. Young people were extremely excited about Obama. He had an almost "rock-star" type of appeal. I think part of that was due to his race. As I said earlier, I think that being a minority is considered "cool" by young people.
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Old 06-12-2010, 10:18 PM
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I think being black helped him overall. It may have cost him some votes in the south but I think it really helped him with young people. Young people were extremely excited about Obama. He had an almost "rock-star" type of appeal. I think part of that was due to his race. As I said earlier, I think that being a minority is considered "cool" by young people.
I think being someone not named Bush, who didn't want to force their religion down our throats and who didn't start a war because he was to weak to say no Cheney and because he a freakin smart guy is was what got him elected. Because he was black is like saying that Ron Guidry won 23 games because he was a lefty.
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Old 06-12-2010, 10:20 PM
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I think being someone not named Bush, who didn't want to force their religion down our throats and who didn't start a war because he was to weak to say no Cheney and because he a freakin smart guy is was what got him elected. Because he was black is like saying that Ron Guidry won 23 games because he was a lefty.
I'm not saying he won because he was black. I'm not saying that at all. I'm simply saying that being black didn't hurt him and overall it may have slightly helped him.
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Old 06-12-2010, 10:34 PM
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I'm not saying he won because he was black. I'm not saying that at all. I'm simply saying that being black didn't hurt him and overall it may have slightly helped him.
And I'm saying that blacks not named Obama don't have an equal chance as whites do. And you disagree...let's leave it at at that...cool?
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Old 06-13-2010, 03:43 AM
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And I'm saying that blacks not named Obama don't have an equal chance as whites do. And you disagree...let's leave it at at that...cool?
Cool.
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