Fleur de Lis and Foster online?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by CSC

It was her best effort this year, however I would be leary of these comparisons. I have often seen these raw number comparisons mislead a handicapper. I think if she was in the Stephen Foster she would have had a hard time holding off Blame, that's just my opinion but you can't really compare the 2 races.

I dont think anyone will argue she would have won the Foster...
I think she would have ran 3rd in the Foster today, the top 2 are pretty good. Lets not compare who Rachel beat to Battle Plan, I doubt Battle Plan comes back to her the way Jessica Is **** did.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I dont think anyone will argue she would have won the Foster...
I think she would have ran 3rd in the Foster today, the top 2 are pretty good. Lets not compare who Rachel beat to Battle Plan, I doubt Battle Plan comes back to her the way Jessica Is **** did.

Maybe, but remember this Rachel often looks better when she is much the best in the race, this race posed no really challenges to a horse in her supposed caliber. She did what she had to do.

[LARHAGE]

Blame ran huge, was there even one horse to win coming off the pace today on dirt? To run down a horse like Battle Plan makes it even more impressive also throwing in his post and wide trip, that was amazing.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by LARHAGE

Blame ran huge, was there even one horse to win coming off the pace today on dirt? To run down a horse like Battle Plan makes it even more impressive also throwing in his post and wide trip, that was amazing.

I basicley just posted the same thing in the other thread, Blame is really good.

[kgar311]

I understand by the many comments on here that there were high hopes for Battle Plan. And Blame certainly didnt have the best of trips to run him down, but I just couldnt help but notice, and I saw this watching live, that about 100yrs from the wire BP was looking for a place to lay down. He had everything his own way and basically stopped at the wire. Although it was a solid G1 win for Blame I just didnt see it as awesome. BP put up zero fight at the wire.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by kgar311

I understand by the many comments on here that there were high hopes for Battle Plan. And Blame certainly didnt have the best of trips to run him down, but I just couldnt help but notice, and I saw this watching live, that about 100yrs from the wire BP was looking for a place to lay down. He had everything his own way and basically stopped at the wire. Although it was a solid G1 win for Blame I just didnt see it as awesome. BP put up zero fight at the wire.

Battle Plan was running well and looked like he was going to win until he switched back to his left lead at the 1/16th pole. Right when he switched to his left lead, he came to a stop. I don't know why Castellano didn't at least attempt to get him back on his right lead. I'm not saying it would have necessarily worked but it was worth a try.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Battle Plan was running well and looked like he was going to win until he switched back to his left lead at the 1/16th pole. Right when he switched to his left lead, he came to a stop. I don't know why Castellano didn't at least attempt to get him back on his right lead. I'm not saying it would have necessarily worked but it was worth a try.

Yeah, I noticed that too. I thought he was in trouble before that though.

I would not be surprised at all to see Battle Plan go on the shelf, or never run again.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Yeah, I noticed that too. I thought he was in trouble before that though.

I would not be surprised at all to see Battle Plan go on the shelf, or never run again.

I think he would have had a shot to hold on if he would have stayed on his right lead. I don't think it was a soundness issue. I think it was more a result of the continuous right-handed whipping. When these horses are giving their all and the jock keeps hitting them right-handed, it will sometimes make them switch to their left lead.

As I said before, I don't know why Castellano didn't switch to his left hand to try to get the horse back on his right lead.