Zenyatta assigned 129 pounds for Vanity

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Apparently, not all of us can be raised with a clue either.

I relish these opportunities to fire back, what's your excuse then? Are you waiting for a field of Bullsbay's and or Macho Again's to fill before your horse crush gets off the schnide this year?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by CSC

I relish these opportunities to fire back, what's your excuse then? Are you waiting for a field of Bullsbay's and or Macho Again's to fill before your horse crush gets off the schnide this year?

We had made it 25 posts in this thread without a mention of Rachel. There was even a video of a horse carrying 130 lbs and winning (!) but you had to come along and invoke Rachel Alexandra. I'm so glad you came back.

NT

[LARHAGE]

I don't see how anyone can complain about Zenyatta running in the Vanity no matter how much weight she's carrying when Rachel is running in a Grade 2 race against an allowance horse so far, they can't even find a field of 4.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by LARHAGE

I don't see how anyone can complain about Zenyatta running in the Vanity no matter how much weight she's carrying when Rachel is running in a Grade 2 race against an allowance horse so far, they can't even find a field of 4.

This isn't about Rachel's schedule (as she tries to regain her form); it's about Zenyatta's (selectively easy) schedule at a time when we are told that she is at the top of her game.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

This isn't about Rachel's schedule (as she tries to regain her form); it's about Zenyatta's (selectively easy) schedule at a time when we are told that she is at the top of her game.

debatable....highly

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

debatable....highly

Please enlighten us.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

This isn't about Rachel's schedule (as she tries to regain her form); it's about Zenyatta's (selectively easy) schedule at a time when we are told that she is at the top of her game.

No, you see, Zenyatta and Rachel are inextricably linked in message board world. You can't mention anything about one without someone bringing up the other. Bring up Shirreffs' ridiculous comments about the Rockies, Rail Trip, or anything else...you hear about Zardana. Bring up Rachel potentially going to any one of four races Saturday...you hear about how Zenyatta is the greatest racehorse evar and Jackson is a disingenuous POS. And also, what has happened in 2010 directly correlates to 2009, as in Rachel's two defeats completely expose her as a fraud and tarnish her HOTY title.

Surely you, someone who has sided with Zenyatta in the past, cannot dare attempt to cross over into the moderate domain, or else the Z police will take you down. See, you have to be for her or for Rachel, no middle ground. And, if you make a negative comment about Z, get ready to hear about how Rachel is so much worse.

NT

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

See, you have to be for her or for Rachel, no middle ground.

I really like them both, and would like to see them each have a great year,
so I'm just waiting to see how their year unfolds.
There, I said it, and am not saying any more. (S--t shield deployed)

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Surely you, someone who has sided with Zenyatta in the past, cannot dare attempt to cross over into the moderate domain, or else the Z police will take you down. See, you have to be for her or for Rachel, no middle ground. And, if you make a negative comment about Z, get ready to hear about how Rachel is so much worse.

While I want to applaud the connections of both horses for keeping their stars in training, I can't help but think that both connections are doing racing a serious disservice with all the needless posturing: (1) Zenyatta's connections by not testing her to see what her true potential is; and (2) Jess Jackson's continued refusal to reveal his plans with Rachel until the very last minute. (No matter where Rachel shows up on Saturday, don't you think the marketing department of that track would like more than 72 hours lead time to let people know that the reigning HOY will be racing there?) The "white smoke" routine on one hand is becoming as tired as the "too high a mountain" act is on the other side.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by LARHAGE

I don't see how anyone can complain about Zenyatta running in the Vanity no matter how much weight she's carrying when Rachel is running in a Grade 2 race against an allowance horse so far, they can't even find a field of 4.

You are comparing two class of fillies right now, not really apples to apples.

[Thunder Gulch]

Originally Posted by LARHAGE

I don't see how anyone can complain about Zenyatta running in the Vanity no matter how much weight she's carrying when Rachel is running in a Grade 2 race against an allowance horse so far, they can't even find a field of 4.

I'm complaining about both of them. This weekend proves absolutely nothing if they roll against outclassed fields in favorable circumstances. I would salute either for running-win or lose- a G1 vs males, but who can get overly excited about watching or wagering these races. If you can't compete, fine, but if you want to say you have the best horse, then prove it.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

I'm complaining about both of them. This weekend proves absolutely nothing if they roll against outclassed fields in favorable circumstances. I would salute either for running-win or lose- a G1 vs males, but who can get overly excited about watching or wagering these races. If you can't compete, fine, but if you want to say you have the best horse, then prove it.

[JBJake]

It wasn't too long ago that I thought there were posts saying that St Trinians is better than Z. Since they are now facing each other, St Trinians becomes a donkey because Zenyatta has never beaten anyone but a donkey in 16 career races that includes 2 Breeders Cup wins?

Let's hope they both win and Z gets over her fear of flying and heads East where they can meet or at least she can run. It doesn't look like she likes DMR so it makes perfect sense to head East and remain until the BC but when does common sense ever rule in this game?

[mark2061mn]

Originally Posted by JBJake

It wasn't too long ago that I thought there were posts saying that St Trinians is better than Z. Since they are now facing each other, St Trinians becomes a donkey because Zenyatta has never beaten anyone but a donkey in 16 career races that includes 2 Breeders Cup wins?

Let's hope they both win and Z gets over her fear of flying and heads East where they can meet or at least she can run. It doesn't look like she likes DMR so it makes perfect sense to head East and remain until the BC but when does common sense ever rule in this game?

Not happening!!

http://drf.com/news/article/113743.html

[paulo537]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

I'm complaining about both of them. This weekend proves absolutely nothing if they roll against outclassed fields in favorable circumstances. I would salute either for running-win or lose- a G1 vs males, but who can get overly excited about watching or wagering these races. If you can't compete, fine, but if you want to say you have the best horse, then prove it.

While she obviously outclasses her field, I
hardly think Zenyatta will enjoy favorable circumstances
in her race. She's giving 9 lbs to a pretty
nice horse and I'll be surprised if the pace is
to her liking. And while it's debateable, there's
reason to believe she hasn't been training as
sharply as she was earlier in the year.

I expect Zenyatta to lose this weekend.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by CSC

I relish these opportunities to fire back, what's your excuse then? Are you waiting for a field of Bullsbay's and or Macho Again's to fill before your horse crush gets off the schnide this year?

You relish these opportunities?

And that's the best you could do? Repeat the same old drivel?

Also, what crush are you talking about? I'm sure I've been pretty vocal (or verbal) here since early last year that people are ridiculously overrating RA.

Some of you Zenyattards are beyond ever being able to find that all elusive clue.

[CSC]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

You relish these opportunities?

And that's the best you could do? Repeat the same old drivel?

Also, what crush are you talking about? I'm sure I've been pretty vocal (or verbal) here since early last year that people are ridiculously overrating RA.

Some of you Zenyattards are beyond ever being able to find that all elusive clue.

Given the 2.5 seconds of thought I gave your post, I think it was more than an adequate response.