Obama: incompetent?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Why? The first election was based on his perceived potential. The second will be based on what he did for the four year term. You don't think that will make a difference?

Nope. Bush admitted torturing people. He's gunna be responsible when our men get the same treatment. Not enough people in the swing states will vote that way. Obama will get enough of them again. Latino vote will start to put some of these states out of your reach ( Colorado, for example.)

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Nope. Bush admitted torturing people. He's gunna be responsible when our men get the same treatment. Not enough people in the swing states will vote that way. Obama will get enough of them again.

Let me rephrase: Do you think that the non-Obamabots will vote differently given his record for the 2008-2012 term? The "hope and change, yes we can" chanters will not do anything differently -- agreed -- but those who evaluate each voting decision are likely to support someone else.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Let me rephrase: Do you think that the non-Obamabots will vote differently given his record for the 2008-2012 term? The "hope and change, yes we can" chanters will not do anything differently -- agreed -- but those who evaluate each voting decision are likely to support someone else.

You're talking about the Independents, and OBA will get those again. It's more about your Party than anything else. It's too extreme. Somebody like the guy who won Jersey? He can't get the Repub nomination, and if you try a Mormon, you'll get owned. This B.P. THING HURTS YOU WITH INDEPENDENTS.

[johnny pinwheel]

this is where you have to love the democrats and republicans. the last two stooges screwed it up and the new ones are continuing "the tradition".....lol. then both parties try to give the stupid, general public the perception that they are running things. yet, debacle after debacle keeps coming forward......the banks, oil companies (leaks), the wars. no, the political class is not owned by corporations they are doing diligent work for the voters out there. the republicans are better.....wait they messed it up.......the democrats are better.......oh, here we go again. the public goes for one than the other, insuring power never changes and can be bought and sold. its your turn....8 years later....its your turn. yeah, one party is better than the other(when its their turn) and they are all incompetent by design because they actually control nothing. but, keep up your liberal, conservative media controlled banter.....its gotten us this far....lol...lol...lol

You're so above it all.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel

and they are all incompetent by design because they actually control nothing. but, keep up your liberal, conservative media controlled banter.....its gotten us this far....lol...lol...lol

They are very different, and the results are different ( a Republican President wouldn't have ever passed a healthcare bill at all.) The only reason you don't see the results being far different is because neither party wants to allow the other to get what it wants done. That does not mean they have the same ideology. I don't know how to get that through to a person so thick. I have failed each time I've tried. I disagree with Conservatives, but they will never be as stupid as someone who thinks there is very little difference between the two parties' ideology. You're dumber than a Bush.

[AlreadyHome]

politics suckkkkkks is a lose lose situation an only the rich matter
more money more problems

they should all smoke a bowl an chill out puff pufff pass
an dont break the cypher

political connections are the best 1can ever have.....
only in AMERICA

GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
AN ALL THE HORSES RUNNING AT THE TRACKS

GO 'NOBODY' GO

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

You're talking about the Independents, and OBA will get those again. It's more about your Party than anything else. It's too extreme. Somebody like the guy who won Jersey? He can't get the Repub nomination, and if you try a Mormon, you'll get owned. This B.P. THING HURTS YOU WITH INDEPENDENTS.

no it doesnt

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

no it doesnt

Yes, your lil message is always that private industry runs things soooooo much better than the Gov't ever could. Here we see private industry fail miserably, and lie repeatedly. Then, we see Conservatives blame the Gov't (an entity they think shouldn't even be hardly around at all.) That is about as hypocritical as it gets. This belief, that private industry needs very little oversight, is shockingly irresponsible. Putting people's Social Security money into the Stock Market would have also been shockingly irresponsible. I don't expect Conservatives (like yourself) to be able to accept these deficiencies. Independents do.

I hope he gets a second term. He'll legalize it.